Posted on 10/16/2013 3:15:15 PM PDT by Eurotwit
Do NOT pay your debt.
We as conservatives play a great weight on personal morals. We keep our word and we pay our debt.
America has been in a deficit since the 50's.
The debt has grown and grown, and now is unsustainable.
You are now debt slaves. You can never pay off the debt to the internatinal bankers.
Rich, huge and forever in servitude.
That is the American future right now.
You have two options:
1. Going along with Obama, ObamaCare and raise the debt ceiling even further. This will work for another couple of decades, but as Jefferson said, you are making your own kids into serfs in the homeland their forefathers created for them.
2. Say"Hell No"
America is the "breadbasket" of the world. You are self sustained. Tell the Chinese and the international bankers to go f. them selves.
You will survive. You have the resources, oil and gas, human brain power, the creative power of freedom.
You are the masters of your own future.
You just need to tell the Obama and the Congress to get the frakk out of it.
Let the people searching for happiness be in charge again.
Iceland, albeit a tiny nation, just did that.
They put the criminal bankers in jail.
Defaulted.
They thought: We have fish, we have geothermals, we will survive.
Now, the bankers are on their feet offering them credit again.
Do not fear the bankers.
Be Americans, take control.
You are the last great hope of the World.
Please default.
Cheers,
Euro.
Iceland is a complete mess by the way, and this post is idiotic.
The debt ceiling will be raised because there aren’t enough conservatives to stop it. The problem isn’t “international bankers”, it’s citizens in the West (Europe led the way) voluntarily opting for socialism. Period.
Indeed. Leave the debt to the kids.
The pentultimate in weakness, slithery sleaziness and neglectful abuse.
Let’s figure out who’s debt it actually is.
I am Norwegian. I know Iceland fairly well. It was our only colony.
Iceland IS doing well, but you cannot compare it to anything as the size of Iceland is the size of an average suburb outside of Colorado Springs.
It is tiny.
But, the warnings were the same. If they defaulted it would mean eternal doom for them
It wasn’t.
I am a published ecoomist scientist.
I agree, btw, that socializing is what is killing us.
Socialism is unsustainable and a crime against human nature. IMHO.
So I would only advocate a default. Like I would do for a dead beat family that you realise you you have messed up.
Maybe a big crash is needed.
:/
But, Americans could get through it so easy. Now, the biggest energy producer thanks to American enguinity, the worlds corn and grain producer. Worried about any nation shutting off your tech. They cannot.
Because it is American.
So, I agree with you in one way.
The problem is the citizens of the West.
But, you have large organizations that prey on our weakness.
And, give us money to perpetuate the problem.
Like a good drug dealer.
F. them.
btw. a default would kill your stockmarket for a while.
But, is there a Chinese Apple to take its place?
I do not think so.
So, the good American businesses will survive and thrive.
Correct. Over 50% of the voting population has figured out it can vote itself largesse our of the nation's treasury, so it's just a matter of time now. My only hope is to delay it until I'm dead.
Don't know about a couple of decades. To my knowledge, no other country has carried a now 18 trillion dollar obligation.
I don't even know if there is 18 trillion dollars in this world, let alone a chance it will ever get paid back...I' think the world is going to wake up sooner rather than later.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world�s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to Complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage.
I think the man was on to something here, alas, we ignore at out own peril....
Problem is, their profits and business come from over seas, they can't survive here.
Who is the author of “A democracy cannot exist.......”?
Alexander Fraser Tyler, Cycle Of Democracy (1770)
Raising the debt ceiling had nothing to with paying/not paying the interest of outstanding US T-bills. Default was never going to happen. It was a lie and you bought into it.
In subverting our Constitutional Republic, who are the self-identified enemies of the state?
/rhetorical
Oh, I can think of one...
All republicans have done was to agree with democrats to open a new, higher limit MasterCard to pay the interest on the Visa, while still going to shows and the movies and out to dinner.
I don’t think they had 18 trillion in liability, they just suffered from massive dollar devaluation, hyper inflation.
Zimbabwe couldn’t muster a billion in real assets, let alone hope to guarantee a 100 trillion debt note..
I am talking about the opposite.
Leave your kids a free nation, like you inherited.
Not let them be slaves.
You are right.
The ancient world went through the same thing.
I still hope that our civ. can can be different, and if anyone can help lead the world it is Free Americans.
Otherwise you will join the UK and France on the skrapheap of history.
It seems to me that I read where American personal debt was decreasing about the time that Obama ramped up the dollar printing presses into high gear.
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