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The fight with crony capitalists, country clubbers, etc. is overdue. We'll lose some. Get over it.
1 posted on 10/16/2013 9:12:44 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Mead's is a seriously flawed view of Jackson, one of the first real "big government" presidents who was the recipient of Van Buren's creation of the Democrat Party, which a) was CREATED to PROTECT SLAVERY, and b) which ENSURED the growth of government by giving away jobs to supporters.

Jackson isn't the model for anything conservatives do. The Republicans under Lincoln are closer, a party people fed up with slavery and government support of slavery and disgusted with a Whig Party (RINOS) who simply would not deal with the major issue of the day.

3 posted on 10/16/2013 9:19:12 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: neverdem

WSJ editors are in the tank for corporate interests which makes WSJ an Allie of Obama.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 9:22:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: neverdem
Ted Cruz and his followers represent Jacksonian America: angry...

 

Angry? Why would we be angry? Obama - and liberals before him - have lowered our culture into the sewer and our economy into the gutter. They have defiled America and insulted our heritage. Currently they are punishing WWII veterans and have stated for the record they could not care less about funding cancer care for children during this shutdown.

Angry? Us?

No, not really. Not yet. But a time is coming when Obama will send armed forces for us. NSA goons, IRS agents, even UN troops. A time is coming when our private retirement funds will be confiscated - our homes will be entered and our weapons collected. A time of planned chaos and Martial Law.

Then we will be angry. BITS, you Obastards. And it will be theirs.

5 posted on 10/16/2013 9:23:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: neverdem

“It’s hard to see how the U.S. can govern itself unless corporate America pushes the Republican establishment to fight back against the tea party—or switches sides.”

This is total BS. It is hard to see how the U.S. survives more than 10-20 years if the Tea Party does not succeed in bringing the country back to its conservative roots.


6 posted on 10/16/2013 9:25:18 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: neverdem

Andrew Jackson despised government debt with a bloody passion, along with bloated tax money sucking banks.

Remind your liberal friends about this when they are headed to the annual Democrap Jefferson-Jackson fundraising dinners.

Recommended read about Jackson: “American Lion” by Meacham.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 9:26:18 AM PDT by taxcutisapayraise (Making Statism Unpopular)
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To: neverdem

Andrew Jackson was a pro-slavery, pro-genocide DEMOCRAT — just like the Democrats of today.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 9:28:57 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: neverdem
"Jacksonians, he argued, embrace a distinctive code, whose key tenets include self-reliance, individualism, loyalty and courage. Jacksonians care as passionately about the Second Amendment as Jeffersonians do about the First Amendment."

And that's a bad thing how? Covers me and I am DMAN PROUD OF IT!
13 posted on 10/16/2013 9:29:29 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: neverdem; tx_eggman

I consider myself more “Monroean” than “Jacksonian”


14 posted on 10/16/2013 9:29:30 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: neverdem
“It’s hard to see how the U.S. can govern itself unless corporate America pushes the Republican establishment to fight back against the tea party—or switches sides.”

Do what? And just whom would be governing this country....the Blue Helmets?

You don't want to go there. The WSJ can ki$$ my a$$. We don't like corporate interests other than the ability to do business as efficiently as possible and maintaining the conditions for maximum possible employment.

That's it. Anything else is crony bullcrap.
16 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:29 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: neverdem

A true account, but pretty cold and unhelpful, certainly. The WSJ could have been of some support and they were not.

The Journal has been known to make fine cases of some of our grievances, but when the TP became a force, the Journal went dark.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 9:34:33 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: neverdem
The author in his assessment of the Tea Party misses one point which reveals that he misses the whole point.

Besides the "apostacy's of the Bush administration and the outrages of the Obama administration", besides the "existential threat of Obamacare", besides the demographic threat of amnesty, the country is hurtling toward a fiscal meltdown. The Tea Party, as an expression of the conservative movement, believes viscerally that spending is out of control, that the debt is at the cusp of being irretrievable, that the unfunded liabilities probably can never be paid, and, at a time when all patriots in decency would work to curb spending and save ourselves, the existing administration actually wants to precipitate a crisis.

The failure to defund Obamacare is but a metaphor for the failure to bring the nation's fiscal house in order, a metaphor for the failure to apply the brakes before we plunge over the precipice. All of the other considerations, while important, are but symptoms of a government which is verging on autocracy and which has no intention of saving the system. In fact, this administration is committed ideologically to the destruction of the system as it was constitutionally created.

Whether one quotes the adage, never let a crisis go to waste, whether one points to Cloward and Piven, whether one cites the plotting's of Saul Alinsky, one must conclude from any of these sources that a crackup is exactly what the elites of the left want.

Therefore, it does not matter whether big business is for or against the tactics employed by The Tea Party. Moderates, big business, most of the unenlightened Democrat party constituency also known as low information voters, are all fixating on irrelevancies. The endgame is there to be seen.

The author has not seen it.


18 posted on 10/16/2013 9:37:01 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: neverdem
...these tea partiers regard most government spending as a deadweight loss.

I agree. If you read Charles Beard's, An Economic Interpretation of the Consitution, you'll discover that the Constitution has two primary areas of concern: 1) policing of property rights (e.g., a legal system), and 2) the provision of social overhead capital (e.g., those things deem socially necessary but without a private market, like a standing military). Now, compare that with what you see today and you find a common thread: social serves are expanded to keep the politicians in office. And to me, the GOP no longer fights this trend and is lock-step with the liberals. I say: Throw them all out and start over.

19 posted on 10/16/2013 9:39:20 AM PDT by econjack (If you ask questions, you may look stupid. If you don't ask questions, you will STAY stupid.)
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To: neverdem

This fight is about corruption. Obama, the socialists in both chambers of the Congress and the treacherous “so-called” Republicans.

The Tea Party Republicans stood strong against them. I am proud of them. Have no doubt...the pressure was intense.

Ted Cruz and the Tea Party caucus in the House were courageous. Watch the vote....the traitors in our Govt. have been exposed.

This is a dark day in our history, we are living through dark days for our Country. They can raise the debt limit into infinity....until one day there will be no options.

Pray for the USA.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 9:39:29 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: neverdem

it’s time for a third party


21 posted on 10/16/2013 9:42:08 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (EVERYTHING IS RACISM!!! except hating whitey)
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To: neverdem
Agree, it's a long fight. Washington lost many battles, but he kept fighting and eventually would the war. Obamacare will be the issue in the 2014 elections.
22 posted on 10/16/2013 9:43:32 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: neverdem
This is a stupid article.

Jackson's political success was due to his success as a general in the War of 1812. Jackson's stated his political philosophy when he said “to the victors go the spoils.”

What this meant was that the party that won the election(”the victors”) were entitled to the wealth that government took from the people(”the spoils”). The Jackson Administration was characterized by massive fraud, corruption and outright theft. It also was the beginning of the spread of the Democrat political machines which worked to win elections through fraud and payoffs.

Jackson also destroyed the young American economy. His policies caused the Panic of 1837 which led to a deep recession which lasted until the mid 1840’s.

Jackson's policies on slavery were also one of the many causes of the Civil War. Judge Taney, who authored the Dred Scott decision, was a close friend and adviser to Jackson and a member of his cabinet.

Ted Cruz and other conservatives want to end government corruption and destructive economic policies. They are not like Jackson and his followers.

24 posted on 10/16/2013 9:50:11 AM PDT by detective
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To: neverdem

I agree.

I would also say, conservatives have NOTHING to lose. We have no party to represent us now.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 10:37:43 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: neverdem
Say what you want about old hickory, the man knew how to throw a house party.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 2:54:16 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: neverdem

William Galston is Senior Fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution and College Park Professor at the University of Maryland School of Public Policy. He is a political theorist who both studies and participates in American politics and domestic policy. His expertise includes American political thought, institutions, and processes; contemporary political and social philosophy; history of political thought; and U.S. domestic policy. Galston was Deputy Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy during the first Clinton Administration and Executive Director of the National Commission on Civic Renewal, which was chaired by Sam Nunn and William Bennett. His books include Public Matters: Essays on Politics, Policy and Religion (Rowman & Littlefield, 2005); The Practice of Liberal Pluralism (Cambridge, 2004); and Liberal Pluralism: The Implications of Value Pluralism for Political Theory and Practice (Cambridge, 2002).

31 posted on 10/16/2013 2:58:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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