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Millions are Losing Their Health Insurance
Townhall.com ^ | October 13, 2013 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 10/12/2013 4:33:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

"If you like your health insurance you can keep it," Barack Obama promised the voters on many occasions.

About 20,000 part-time employees of Home Depot recently found out how false that promise is. The company announced that it is ending its health insurance coverage for its employees and sending them to the new health insurance exchanges.

They will be joined by employees of McDonald's, Disney, CVS Caremark, Staples, Blockbuster, and many others.

A lot of these employers have mini med plans with limited coverage. McDonald's, for example, has a plan that limits health insurance benefit to $2,000 but gives employees the option to pay a higher premium and get $3,000 or $4,000 of coverage. At Home Depot, the coverage reaches $5,000. The state of Tennessee, under TennCare, used mini med plans with a $25,000 annual cap on benefits.

Mini med plans typically have no deductible. They usually charge a modest copayment for physician visits and drugs. But if a McDonald's employee goes into a hospital, the co-insurance rate is 30% and the plan's benefit cap will probably be blown right through after the first 30 minutes of admission.

These plans are being abolished under ObamaCare and if the employees end up in one of the new health insurance exchanges they will get subsidized insurance that will look very different. For one thing, the premium the employee pays will double and for many it will more than double. Then they will face, say, a $1,500 deductible for individual coverage. Surprisingly, if the employee goes into a hospital he faces a 20% copayment (comparable to the mini med plans!), but the total out of pocket exposure is limited to $2,250.

Now, which of these plans is better? For the orthodox health policy community, this isn't even a serious question. That's because they live in neighborhoods and associate with people who would never even consider buying mini med coverage. And, remember, imposing one's worldview on others is 90% of what liberalism is all about.

But would you be surprised to learn that there are many people who would find the mini med plan more attractive?

Let's begin by asking why anyone wants insurance. In every other field, the answer is obvious. Insurance protects assets. Life insurance protects the value of human capital. Fire and casualty insurance protects homes, cars and other structures. People are willing to pay a premium to transfer the risk of a financial catastrophe to others. The same should be true in health care as well. Health insurance is a way of protecting one's financial resources against the expense of a catastrophic illness.

But if you don't own a house, you have no need for homeowners insurance. If you don't own a car, you have no need for auto casualty insurance. Similarly, if you have no assets at all (other than your human capital) why would you want health insurance?

For low and moderate income households, the reason why mini med plans are attractive seems to be this: People living paycheck to paycheck have trouble maintaining a reserve for unexpected medical expenses. So as an alternative to personal savings and higher wages, they appear to be willing to take less in take home pay in return for a modest amount of health insurance.

Okay, all that is rational. But what would be irrational is to buy a health insurance plan with an unlimited benefit ? one that, say, is able to pay a $1 million medical bill. Why would you buy a million dollars' worth of coverage, if you don't have a million dollars of assets to protect?

In the modern era, a perverse idea seems to have dominated the health policy community. The idea is that the purpose of health insurance is not to protect assets. It is to provide access to health care.

That might make some sense if it were really true. But the fact is that we have made it extremely easy in this country to obtain health insurance after you get sick. More than 90% of all the people with health insurance are in a plan that cannot deny them admission because of a health condition. For the elderly and the poor, it's 100%. In saying what I am about to say, let me preface by saying that I am aware that there are many very, very bad studies claiming that health insurance saves lives, improves health, etc. But when serious scholars have looked at this question, the reasons to think that health insurance affects mortality or health status are few. If health insurance affects health at all, the effect is marginal.

So, back to the original question. If you are making say, $15, $20 or $25 an hour, the ObamaCare plan is unlikely to look very attractive. Yes, it provides catastrophic insurance, which the mini med plan does not. But if you have a catastrophic medical event without ObamaCare insurance, odds are that you will be able to rely on the social safety net ? uncompensated care or even Medicaid. And if that doesn't work, odds are that you or a member of your family will be able to sign up for an employer plan that pays full expenses.

People with modest incomes are going to need help from others if they have a catastrophic medical event. What's the best way of getting help? Is it by obtaining subsidized health insurance with high deductibles and high out-of-pocket payments? Or is it through obtaining help to pay medical bills after the event occurs?

Ironically, the very people that ObamaCare is designed to help may be the ones most hurt by its enactment.

But I am open to the possibility that I am wrong. So let's entertain a market test. Instead of abolishing mini med plans, let people choose between those plans and ObamaCare's mandated benefits. Let's give people what they want.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0carenightmare; bhohealthcare; blameobama; dncstrategy; exchanges; healthinsurance; layoffs; obamacare; obamacareanecdotes; obamacarelies; obamadontcare; obamalies; obamasfault; resident0bama
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1 posted on 10/12/2013 4:33:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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>> “If you like your health insurance you can keep it,” Barack Obama promised

Obama is a liar.


2 posted on 10/12/2013 4:36:21 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kaslin

When these companies drop health benefits I wonder if they compensate the employee with the money they save or do the stock holders benefit?


3 posted on 10/12/2013 4:37:26 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Gene Eric

and the media crucified the elder Bush on “ no new taxes” but remains silent on “ if you like your health insurance, or doctor you can keep them”

Paraphrasing the devils words......


4 posted on 10/12/2013 4:38:14 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Kaslin

Most of these folks on Mini meds are low information voters.

When they realize how screwed they are, will they still vote for Democrats?

Democrats may be killing themselves. Hopefully they are.


5 posted on 10/12/2013 4:40:25 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Kaslin
RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE was designed in the Romney Agenda
and imposed by Romney and Kennedy.

BOTH Parties support statism and RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE.


6 posted on 10/12/2013 4:44:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

Built in design.

The only purpose of Obamacare has nothing to do with ‘providing health care or health insurance’.


7 posted on 10/12/2013 4:50:07 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Kaslin

But, but, but...you SAID...


8 posted on 10/12/2013 4:52:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Kaslin

A patient of mine (in a very BLUE state that has fervently embraced Obamacare) recently lost her health insurance. She told me that she attempted to enroll this past week on the state exchange and, after many consultations, they couldn’t determine for her how she should enter her income correctly. Wow. She was told they’ll have a “team of experts” to help assist her in a few weeks. As of now, she’s in limbo and has to wait. If the BLUE states are having trouble with this debacle then it cannot possibly survive.


9 posted on 10/12/2013 4:54:18 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: Gene Eric
<<<< Obama is a liar. >>>>

He is a liberal!

All liberals lie!

They can not help it!

Lying comes natural to them!!!

10 posted on 10/12/2013 4:54:22 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
We have a window of opportunity to do great damage to the amnesty push. While people are in shock over what Obamacare has done to their health costs they will be receptive to discussion of how much more it will soon cost. They should be reminded that those costs will be greatly increased with tens of millions of illegals granted amnesty and added to the rolls of freeloading ObamaCare recipients.
11 posted on 10/12/2013 4:54:50 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

12 posted on 10/12/2013 4:55:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

I have lost my Medicare Advantage. At least if I want to keep my doctor I have.

The group and the insurer will not renew this year’s contract. No contract no doctor.

The doctor will accept a limited number of insurers but will not accept any new medicare patients. Medicare Advantage is acceptable but not ordinary medicare.


13 posted on 10/12/2013 4:56:33 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: BlueStateRightist

She better keep an eye on her bank account


14 posted on 10/12/2013 4:56:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
But if you don't own a house, you have no need for homeowners insurance. If you don't own a car, you have no need for auto casualty insurance. Similarly, if you have no assets at all (other than your human capital) why would you want health insurance?

Obamacare was crafted to add to the bottom line of the big insurance companies, then sold via State Media to the sheeple. The insurance companies profit, the politicians profit thru kickback donations from the insurance companies. Well, two out of three ain't bad.

15 posted on 10/12/2013 5:01:37 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: Kaslin
And, remember, imposing one's worldview on others is 90% of what liberalism is all about...

'Bout says it all.

Ironically, the very people that ObamaCare is designed to help may be the ones most hurt by its enactment.

Liberalism strikes again.

16 posted on 10/12/2013 5:07:10 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: BlueStateRightist
Wow. She was told they’ll have a “team of experts” to help assist her in a few weeks.

You should have told her the most feared words in America, "We are from the government; we are here to help you".

17 posted on 10/12/2013 5:09:41 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Flick Lives
Don't forget that not one Republican voted for it, neither in the House, nor in the Senate. It was plain and simple pushed down the throat of the American people against their will.
18 posted on 10/12/2013 5:10:09 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Diogenesis

Please stop reminding me of my huge mistake.


19 posted on 10/12/2013 5:14:21 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Kaslin

“She better keep an eye on her bank account”

People should seriously focus on plans to transfer their wealth to the next generation; these crappy plans being offered will ensure that your entire estate is subject to liens by the time you’re in the ground. I believe this WAS an intended consequence of destoying the current (imperfect) healthcare model.


20 posted on 10/12/2013 5:17:55 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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