Rasmussen has him at -7:
Posted on 10/10/2013 10:58:12 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Missouri’s Republican U.S. Senator is expressing some frustration with his GOP colleagues in the House of Representatives over a temporary debt ceiling increase proposal and the partial government shutdown.
Sen. Roy Blunt says the shutdown was a strategic error because it is overshadowing the troubled implementation of the Affordable Care Act.
“The President had as difficult an August and early September as any president, second-term president, could have and we figured out how to change the subject,” he said Thursday in a conference call.
Blunt says an offer by House Republicans to temporarily raise the debt ceiling is a missed opportunity to cut spending.
“The debt ceiling, combined with opening the government, gave us at least an end date on when it was likely we could bring these discussions to conclusion,” he said.
House Speaker John Boehner and other top Republicans met with President Obama Thursday afternoon to discuss a short-term proposal by Boehner to raise the nation’s debt ceiling. The White House has called the proposal “encouraging.”
He is right
The President was drowning this year with the NSA/Snowden stuff, the Syria debacle, his Arab spring falling apart, and the implementation of Obamacare
By simply keeping their mouths shut and letting Obamacare collapse on itself, R’s would have made big gains in 2014 in both Houses, rendering the President irrelevant for the rest of his term
This shutdown and now debt ceiling talks has given the Resident new life politically
Those other realities won’t just go away in 2014. To gain rewards in 2013, the Republican base needs to see that the party is a genuine opposition party too.
Otherwise, all those other things you listed mean nothing.
I suppose if you consider 37% approval "new life politically"...
Bogus
Conservatives would vote for Tea party reps regardless in 2014 even if nothing was done this month.
Getting the Senate back takes more then tea party votes though. There would have been gains in the House, and the Senate most likely would flip.
Right now centrist voters are totally ditching the GOP brand and this will stick the longer the shut down goes on and default is threatened.
The joke of all this is conservatives actually NOT coming out to vote for tea party candidates in 2014. Cons would have been their regardless of this suicide mission occurring or not.
Instead, O has new life and momentum going into 2014, when he should have been rendered an irrelevent lame duck by December
It gives him a foil, similar to what the 1995 shutdown did for Clinton- he got an antagonist and could paint himself as a good guy.
The whole key to completely shutting down the D agenda beyond midterms was getting a clear majority in the Senate, at least 52 seats so Biden is irrelevant.
More then likely now D’s keep the Senate and have an outside chance at the House, again breathing new life into what should be a dead Presidency.
He is wrong.
His position is purely political amounting to letting the prez swing slowly in the breeze.
The effect of the shutdown has been to give O the rope he needed to make a noose for himself. Calling him to task for his demand to be given full authority for everything has resulted in an explosion of epic proportions. O is slaying himself every day. It was bad for him before. Now it is untenable. Sticking it to the vets and Srs is always bad business. O is too immature to understand the impact of his temper tantrum.
By sticking to Constitutional principle the House leadership has proven themselves statesmen, not mere politicians.
Kudos, Boehner, for as long as you are able to keep your spine erect.
Rasmussen has him at -7:
The House is on the verge of caving
In a year what will be remember by non red districts in America?
That a few hundred vets couldn’t visit the WW2 memorial, or that GDP shrunk and the debt ceiling was very close to being breached?
Again, conservatives will vote for tea party folks regardless. But we need the Senate, badly, and had a damn good chance of getting it until 10 days ago.
When the House caves this will be an epic failure.
I will NOT vote for this Missouri RINO in the next election. Blunt voted with the Dems on the cloture vote on defunding Obamacare. Blunt will say and do anything to make himself “look” like a good Republican.
“This shutdown and now debt ceiling talks has given the Resident new life politically”
And you believe all those other things have gone away just because the gubmint is shut down???
Unlike the MSM, we are actually able to walk and chew gum at the same time. This isn’t replacing those other scandals: it’s adding to them!
This is just another worthless RINO that needs to be replaced!
Nonsense. All of the things you mentioned would have been ancient history by the time 2014 rolled around. Wherever the Democrats were hurt politically, the press would have minimized any damage, either through deception or through ignoring the issue.
The storyline, in about 6 months, would have been how ObamaCare was improving, and we would have been presented with non-stop stories of people who were benefiting from it.
ObamaCare will never collapse on itself, any more than any other big bureaucratic entity has. It would have been “fixed”, by idiot Republicans and Democrats alike, as it moved toward its inevitable destination — a very malevolent version of single-payer.
By defunding, we are buying time. Once established, the dependencies become too great, and the system we know of today will be so transformed there will be no going back. Blunt is wrong, or he is secretly one of those people who want it, since ObamaCare will give DC such leverage over the people.
Had Cruz (and the house) not done anything, the election of 2014 would have resulted in an irrelevant, marginal change, one way or the other. Now, we at least have the possibility of stopping this monstrosity before it becomes entrenched.
As Cruz says, it is now up to us, to make sure that we politically have the back of those who took such great personal and political risks. Blunt is an irrelevant fool, and should be treated as such.
Sorry to disappooint you. The House will not cave. They cave they die and they know it.
Keep in mind, also, that Clinton’s approval also dropped from 52% to 42% during the 1995 shutdown. After it was over, his 1996 approval crept up to 60%.
You have a lot more faith in the low information voters than I do, I figure the vast majority will have completely forgotten about the shutdown and their "rage" at Republicans a month after the shutdown ends, or as soon as another "shiny" pop culture object is dangled in front of them in the form of a new Lady Gaga album or a crazy Kanye West escapade. Case in point...remember all the "rage" and calls for gun control a month or two after Sandy Hook, with polls showing something like 70% demanded stricter gun laws? Is anybody even talking about gun control anymore? And it hasn't even been a year....
Yes, but Republican's held the house and actually gained seats in the Senate in 1996. So if anything, the shutdown was a wash...
Again, that is bogus.
When people start to see exploding deductables, or plans that only cover individuals and not families, the charade would be over.
It is a bad bad law. And a bad law that would have fallen apart and kept the negatives of the President in the news, along with his awful year in the foreign policy arena.
This was a matter of making the guy irrelevant come January 1 when everyone would be focused on the 2014 midterms.
The House will cave in a week, and surrender. The President will have his victory and new life.
2014, rather then being an R route, as it should be, may end up giving this President more strength going into his last 2 years.
In correct
Dems made gains in 1996
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1996
He is right
The President was drowning this year with the NSA/Snowden stuff, the Syria debacle, his Arab spring falling apart, and the implementation of Obamacare
“By simply keeping their mouths shut and letting Obamacare collapse on itself, R’s would have made big gains in 2014 in both Houses, rendering the President irrelevant for the rest of his term
This shutdown and now debt ceiling talks has given the Resident new life politically”
your opinoin is based on a false premise. The rupublicans wouldn’t had support from concervitives after letting the ACA (Obamacare) and raising the debt ceiling.
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