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What? Refusing to negotiate until the other side capitulates on the very subject to be negotiated? Like what you want Israel to do with the Palestinians? No, most of us would not do that, but you will.

You're saying publicly that shutting down the government and keeping it shut down will cause a deep recession, and our mangy little dog, too? Surrender, Dorothy, or else? But that's talking down the economy.

1 posted on 10/08/2013 2:34:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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What you mean “we,” kemosabe?


2 posted on 10/08/2013 2:36:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Eleutheria5

This from a twerp who knows nothing about economy!


3 posted on 10/08/2013 2:36:30 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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“very deep recession”

By my way of thinking, we have been in a recession/depression plus inflation for the past 5 years. There has been no real economic growth.

4 posted on 10/08/2013 2:36:49 PM PDT by Parmy
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What’s this we stuff?

This is largely his debt, his economy.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 2:36:54 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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OK ... people not working are not getting paid (at the moment), so those funds are free, meaning .. the gummint has what it needs to operate.

Y'don't need no allowance increase.

6 posted on 10/08/2013 2:37:57 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Obama: Raise the Debt Ceiling Or We're in Trouble

Me: Stop spending so much money or we're in trouble.

7 posted on 10/08/2013 2:38:45 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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“we” = the kleptocrats


8 posted on 10/08/2013 2:40:01 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Debt Ceiling Raised Seven Times Under Obama, Costing $43,000 Per Household

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/09/26/morning-bell-43000-per-household/

FUBO


9 posted on 10/08/2013 2:40:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Quotes of President Barack Obama on the Budget, Deficit, Debt and Deficit Ceiling
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3076002/posts


10 posted on 10/08/2013 2:40:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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When it comes to ObamaCare, he says we can't change it- it's the law.

But the debt ceiling is a law that he says must be changed.

Why can some laws be changed and some laws can't be changed?

11 posted on 10/08/2013 2:40:56 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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Don’t negotiate until Air Force One is grounded, All Presidential vacations are canceled and all Presidential golf courses are closed.


13 posted on 10/08/2013 2:43:00 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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Yeah, raise the debt ceiling so this glorified crackhead can send Air Force One on a round trip flight to fetch the family dog to Hawaii. Raise the debt so more sensitivity luncheons can be held in the White House for transsexuals and state dinners for countries that don’t show up.


15 posted on 10/08/2013 2:44:10 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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>"Raise the Debt Ceiling Or We're in Trouble"


17 posted on 10/08/2013 2:45:12 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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What do you mean, "we"?

If we can't make do with the trillions we have coming in, start shutting things down. This time, don't start with the military.

22 posted on 10/08/2013 2:47:05 PM PDT by Gritty (We are quickly running out of "boxes"...)
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The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. ~~ Barack 0bama, March 20, 2006


23 posted on 10/08/2013 2:48:00 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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If you have not seen this, you should. One of the best youtube videos ever, and directly about the subject at hand. It is also extremely entertaining and only three minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0no7O9zmE


24 posted on 10/08/2013 2:48:27 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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I’m so confused. Didn’t this same idiot, as Senator in 2006, say increasing the debt limit was irresponsible and just a tool of evil Republicans to run up Bush debt?

Harry Reid said the same back then.


26 posted on 10/08/2013 2:48:58 PM PDT by Fledermaus (OMG! The Federal Government is Shut Down. World To End: Film At Eleven.)
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“Its un-patriotic! Its un-American!!”


27 posted on 10/08/2013 2:50:36 PM PDT by skeeter
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More and more Obama sounds like a junkie.

“Man, I just have to have more money! I got needs!”

And as with being addicted to heroin, such addiction to insane amounts of money does not end well.


30 posted on 10/08/2013 2:52:28 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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“...Or We're In Deep Trouble.”

Yes, Mr. Soetoro, you and and your goon squad is is deep, deep trouble. Especially if your credit card is maxed out and you can't buy your Amish friends those spiffy gadgets they don't need.

No more Amish pot warmers or gold plated horseshoes. Oh the horror!!

32 posted on 10/08/2013 2:58:44 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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