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Genetic Roots of Ashkenazi Jews
The Scientist ^ | 10/8/13 | Kate Yandell

Posted on 10/08/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

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Interesting. The study seems to suggest that most European Jews are paternally descended from Israelites and maternally descended from European converts (presumably taken as wives by Jews in the Roman Empire).

I suppose that explains why you see some Jews with very "European" features and others with very Middle Eastern features. It also explains why so many movies cast Italian actors as Jewish characters, and vice-versa!

1 posted on 10/08/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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Sadly, I always get asked if I am arab.

French/German/Polish Jews in background. Cohen haplotype.

(And I am thinking to the people who ask me if I am arab, “Really, see the little round hat in the back. The suit?)


2 posted on 10/08/2013 12:01:09 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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I have read that Ashkenazi Jews have a much higher frequency of above genius level IQ than any other group of people on earth.
3 posted on 10/08/2013 12:08:14 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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4 posted on 10/08/2013 12:09:18 PM PDT by Theoria
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I seem to also remember that Ashkenazi Jews had the highest IQs of any group on the planet.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 12:11:09 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SunkenCiv

ping.


6 posted on 10/08/2013 12:13:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Jewbacca

Maybe they just assume that anyone with a long, dark beard is an Arab. Like the idiots who attack Sikhs for being “Muslim terrorists.”


7 posted on 10/08/2013 12:13:38 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women.....

Jewish men dating shiksas. So what this is new?.............

8 posted on 10/08/2013 12:13:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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(And I am thinking to the people who ask me if I am arab, “Really, see the little round hat in the back. The suit?)

(No sarcasm here.) Please educate my misconception, then.

To my current way of thinking, Arab is a general type of ethnic group, and Jews come from many different ethnic groups.

For instance, I used to get my hair cut by a Jewish lady from Iran. (Yes, I know, Iranian IS NOT Arab, but I'm talking about the general concept here, not the particulars.) She seemed both Jewish and Iranian.

9 posted on 10/08/2013 12:16:47 PM PDT by Yossarian
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I’d be interested in looking at the genetics of (Christian) southern Europeans in general, especially Greeks and Italians. You’d probably find an interesting mix of characteristic European haplotypes and Middle Eastern ones (thanks to Phoenicians/Carthaginians/Moors, etc). You certainly see it in the people: I’ve known some people from Sicily and Naples who look like Vikings and others who look like Arabs.


10 posted on 10/08/2013 12:17:37 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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prehistoric European women

As in Wilma Flintstone and Betty Rubble.
11 posted on 10/08/2013 12:18:05 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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Should be approached with caution as these claims seem to contradict numerous past DNA studies, but this would lend credence to some indications that as much as 10% of the Roman Empire was Jewish or converts to Judaism.


12 posted on 10/08/2013 12:18:16 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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I knew a Japanese-American fellow that was always being mistaken for Mexican.


13 posted on 10/08/2013 12:18:34 PM PDT by DManA (.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

The true genetic descendants of the Jews are the Palestinians.


14 posted on 10/08/2013 12:20:38 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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Really, see the little round hat in the back

Believe it or not sometimes that little round hat is kind of hard to see - black on black hair.

15 posted on 10/08/2013 12:21:18 PM PDT by DManA (.)
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I knew a Japanese-American fellow that was always being mistaken for Mexican.

I can't imagine mistaking a Japanese person for a Mexican. However, on a vacation in northern Minnesota, my first, thoughtless reaction on seeing Ojibwe Indians everywhere was "why are there so many Mexicans in northern Minnesota?" Since most Mexicans have more American Indian than European blood, I guess it's an easy mistake to make.

16 posted on 10/08/2013 12:21:23 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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I can recall being intrigued by how many of the world’s most brilliant physicists were Hungarian Jews from Budapest.

It just about has to be genetics.


17 posted on 10/08/2013 12:22:26 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: hlmencken3
Should be approached with caution as these claims seem to contradict numerous past DNA studies, but this would lend credence to some indications that as much as 10% of the Roman Empire was Jewish or converts to Judaism.

Which historians have claimed a number that high? I do remember reading that Judaism was much more active in seeking converts in ancient times than in Medieval or recent history, so it would make sense that many modern Jews are descended from converts.

18 posted on 10/08/2013 12:23:06 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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It also explains why so many movies cast Italian actors as Jewish characters, and vice-versa!

Not to mention how, in large American cities in the early 20th century, the Italian "ghetto" and the Jewish "ghetto" always seemed to be near each other.

20 posted on 10/08/2013 12:23:38 PM PDT by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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