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A Cup of Civility: The Lesson in the Starbucks Non-Backlash
Townhall.com ^ | October 7, 2013 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 10/07/2013 4:12:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/07/2013 4:12:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
72 percent, say it won't make any difference in where they get their coffee.

So 28% say they will get their coffee elsewhere (this includes me). Who thinks that any business can write off nearly 30% of their customer base?

Worst. Article. Ever.
2 posted on 10/07/2013 4:22:13 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

Outrage fatigue?


3 posted on 10/07/2013 4:23:56 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: Kaslin

Well folks will simply go to DD, McC’s, or to the local coffee shop, that is all.


4 posted on 10/07/2013 4:27:08 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Kaslin

This doesn’t surprise me. Starbucks didn’t say no guns and those who wish to bring them, still can. Their business, our money. Freedom is making choices.


5 posted on 10/07/2013 4:30:13 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Kaslin

I’m glad. There were always so many guns at my local Starbucks before. /sarc


6 posted on 10/07/2013 4:36:32 AM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A substantial portion of the poll sample were not Starbucks customers to start with. Those people’s opinions don’t affect the business at all.

For example, I’d have responded that Starbucks’ policy “won’t make any difference in where I get my coffee.” I’ll continue getting it in bags at the grocery store, for preparation and consumption at home.


7 posted on 10/07/2013 4:43:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Kaslin

Good article. I’ve never been in a Starbucks and probably never will, not for political reasons, I just prefer my home made Folgers.

I have a list of places (not a written list) that I boycott for various reasons but feel no need to try to encourage others in joining my personal boycotts.

I couldn’t even join in the BUYcott for Chic Fil A, I detest ALL chicken.


8 posted on 10/07/2013 4:57:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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-——I couldn’t even join in the BUYcott for Chic Fil A-——

I’m reminded of the expression......

Try it, you might like it : )


9 posted on 10/07/2013 4:59:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Worst. Article. Ever

No, not really. The point of the article was that more people should adopt the same civility and live-and-let-live attitude. Re-read the last couple of paragraphs and you'll see what he's getting at.

10 posted on 10/07/2013 5:01:38 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: Red in Blue PA

Personally, I always hope there is a good guy (or gal) with a gun in any business I patronize.


11 posted on 10/07/2013 5:04:22 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Red in Blue PA

The owner was tired of a bunch of showoffs using his store as a stage for open carry demonstrations.

Most folks think a business owner is not obligated to provide a political stage.

Check back next year and you will see business has increased, not decreased.

OBTW.....I CCW.


12 posted on 10/07/2013 5:10:03 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: Red in Blue PA

28% reduction in customers is a non-backlash?!

Worst article ever indeed. [hey the author deserves it since he ‘went there’ - coffee]


13 posted on 10/07/2013 5:36:25 AM PDT by Justa
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28% reduction in customers is a non-backlash?! Worst article ever indeed. [hey the author deserves it since he ‘went there’ - coffee]

Where does it say this? I thought it was a good article and if more people did what the author wrote about in the last paragraphs the country would be better off. If you don't like the coffee don't go the author won't mind.

14 posted on 10/07/2013 5:47:30 AM PDT by KirbDog
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To: Kaslin
If a traditionally Christian florist wishes to politely decline the offer to arrange the flowers for a same-sex wedding, why shouldn't she be free to do so? If a passionately liberal shopkeeper courteously asks a customer not to come in with a T-shirt proclaiming "Impeach Obama," or a conservative landlord says he'd prefer not to rent to an unmarried cohabiting couple, would it be so terrible to shrug and let it go? If a restaurant owner has no objection to letting customers smoke, couldn't diners accept the house rule gracefully and go elsewhere if they want a smoke-free meal?

This is the crux of this article to me, the FREE MARKET which allows me and the merchants to decide on service and custom. While I firmly believe that it is STUPID for merchants to deny service based on skin color and other historical biases, to force non-monopoly service that violates personal principals is even more wrong!

15 posted on 10/07/2013 5:47:47 AM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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Hmmm... What’s the difference between the ‘offended’ groups at Starbucks and the other incidents?

Oh - that’s right! Starbucks offended the conservative side, which doesn’t generally resort to terroristic physical or legal tactics, in contrast with the liberal factions.


16 posted on 10/07/2013 5:50:23 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Kaslin

Those of us who respect the Second Amendment also respect private property rights.

It is wholly within Starbucks’ right to decide they don’t want guns on their property.

Just as it is my right to decide to buy my coffee someplace else.

Freedom works just fine if you let it.


17 posted on 10/07/2013 6:28:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: LSAggie

The point he should be making is that creating gun free zones will cause deaths......it is only a matter of time.

No more Starbucks for me.....and I have (had) their Gold Card.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 6:32:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Those of us who respect the Second Amendment also respect private property rights.

It is wholly within Starbucks’ right to decide they don’t want guns on their property.

Just as it is my right to decide to buy my coffee someplace else.

Freedom works just fine if you let it.”

Agreed. And I also thought the letter had an admirably civil tone. He did not criticize gunholders.


19 posted on 10/07/2013 6:39:19 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: Red in Blue PA
So 28% say they will get their coffee elsewhere (this includes me). Who thinks that any business can write off nearly 30% of their customer base?

Worst. Article. Ever.

I agree, pretty poor. If I am out and about and armed (as I usually am), I am not going back to my vehicle to stow my weapon to comply with the Starbucks CEO's wishes. But then, I carry concealed. I think his complaint was mainly with "open carry". Last time I was at a Starbucks it was one of the mini ones in a Kroger grocery store. I was, as usual, armed.

20 posted on 10/07/2013 7:05:24 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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