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Doctors claim to offer affordable health care without insurance
WFAA ^ | 10-02-13 | JANET ST. JAMES

Posted on 10/02/2013 8:33:08 PM PDT by slumber1

COLLEYVILLE — The clinic under construction in Colleyville has all the trappings of an ordinary doctor's office. But Dr. Kevin Wacasey is planning something revolutionary here. He’s offering what he says is truly affordable health care. "It's a cash clinic," Dr. Wacasey said. "That's just like it used to be in the good old days back before managed care took over."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abortion; affordable; deathpanels; doctors; health; obamacare; zerocare
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To: Mamzelle

The idea has it’s advantige. Let’s say there is a deductable of $5,000 on your Obamacare Silver plan so a visit to the doctor is going to cost you. I suspect that the insurance doctor will charge much more than the cash doctor for the same visit.

CC


21 posted on 10/02/2013 9:13:40 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: slumber1

The Dictator will find a way to shut them down!


22 posted on 10/02/2013 9:20:24 PM PDT by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: Captain Compassion
You're not listening, either. Of course a cash doctor is affordable in his own office.

Xray?

Lab???

Treatments????

Surgeries???

I"m beginning to think it's pointless. Honestly, your "doctor bill" is the cheapest part of your medical care. What kills you is hospitalization.

23 posted on 10/02/2013 9:21:12 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: slumber1

Fee for services will become illegal. Hillarycare back in 1994-ish made that the keystone of socialized medicine. Every time a clinic like that opens up here in Memphis, a local hospital buys it out and closes it. Also doctors who have such fee for service clinics lose their admitting privledges at area hospitals. The hospital board members see to that.


24 posted on 10/02/2013 9:21:34 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Mamzelle
5. Price Controls Since it is fairly well known that price controls have never worked, that they have always been a disaster, the Clinton administration always keen on semantic trickery, have stoutly denied that any price controls are contemplated. But the network of severe price controls will be all too evident and painful, even if they wear the mask of "premium caps, … cost caps," or "spending control." They will have to be there, for it is the promise of "cost control" that permits the Clintonians to make the outrageous claim that taxes will hardly go up at all. (Except, of course, on employers.) Tight spending control will be enforced by the government, not merely on its own, but particularly on private spending.

One of the most chilling aspects of the Clinton plan is that any attempt by us consumers to get around these price controls, e.g., to pay higher-than-controlled prices to doctors in private practice, will be criminalized. Thus, the Clinton plan states that "a provider may not charge or collect from the patient a fee in excess of the fee schedule adopted by an alliance," and criminal penalties will be imposed for "payment of bribes or gratuities" (i.e., "black market prices") to "influence the delivery of health service."

In arguing for their plan, by the way, the Clintonians have added insult to injury by employing absurd nonsense in the form of argument. Their main argument for the plan is that healthcare is "too costly," and that thesis rests on the fact that healthcare spending, over recent years, has risen considerably as a percentage of the GDP. But a spending rise is scarcely the same as a cost increase; if it were, then I could easily argue that, since the percentage of GDP spent on computers has risen wildly in the past ten years, that "computer costs" are therefore excessive, and severe price controls, caps, and spending controls must be imposed promptly on consumer and business purchases of computers.

https://mises.org/daily/6091/The-Devilish-Principles-of-Hillarycare

25 posted on 10/02/2013 9:27:22 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: slumber1

Does Obamacare really say it is against the law to accept Medicare and Medicaid?


26 posted on 10/02/2013 9:27:29 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Avid Coug
If Obamacare goes forward, they will make these types of clinics illegal. It will be done by federal regulation—not by laws passed by Congress.

Oh, I think that's mentioned here...

§Section 2.0 of the UnaffordableSocialized Healthcare Act:

The Health and Inhumane Secretary may, at will, deem ANY and all cash only clinics as operating against said laws, and therefore be considered felonious to those who participate in such operations.

27 posted on 10/02/2013 9:28:46 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: blackdog

Even with insurance I would pay an annual fee just for 24/7 access to my clinic and to receive expedited care in the event of a serious illness. Can that also be regulated out ?


28 posted on 10/02/2013 9:30:57 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: slumber1

If I were a Dr, I’d definitely be going this route..private practice, negotiate my own rates..cash discounts. Cut out the middle man.
Makes sense, right??

Just unsure of tort law, insurance etc..
Why doesn’t GOP take this on. Tort reform?


29 posted on 10/02/2013 9:33:22 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Monorprise

My son, the Obama loving liberal, cost $2500 to bring into this world 44 years ago. We just paid the bill.

When I told him this he was shocked.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 9:38:43 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: erlayman

Yes, it will be. Study the wordsmithing of the Clinton’s attempt at healthcare legislation. The same authors put the Odungocare plan together. Doctors accepting a fee for service outside government payment systems will face criminal prosecution.


31 posted on 10/02/2013 9:39:59 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Mamzelle
How about a broken arm, the flu? getting a Viagra script? No hospitalization involved here. Let's say that after some hard partying you get an STD. Something antibiotics can cure. Do you want your government maintained medical record to reflect this? Who else will be informed? Been to the doctor a few times. Never been hospitalized.

CC

32 posted on 10/02/2013 9:43:03 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: Aria

Add 44 Years of Interest on the $2500 and tell him he owes you a Penalty for Voting for Obama.

If he whines, remind him that his Commie friend Obama will fine you using the full force of his Tyrannical Regime if you fail to comply with Obamacare.

Then cut him out of your Will and tell him to call Obama to see if he’ll add him to his Will. You know, if Obama had a Son.

OR - Forgive and forget... #:^)


33 posted on 10/02/2013 9:50:19 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Due to the Federal Government Shutdown, the Tagline is closed.)
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To: Captain Compassion

Dear CC— if you have never been hospitalized, you can afford medical care. I am assuming you do not yet have a wife who has given birth.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 9:54:30 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Captain Compassion

Also, if the clinic is associated with a hospital, the hospital charges an extra fee for that. So you have the insurance companies wanting their cut and hospital associated “medical homes”(just a fancy word for their clinics) have to collect a cut for the hospital. This is all in ADDITION to the office call that you pay.
Therefore, docs are going cash only and the insurance companies and hospitals no longer get their cuts. This allows a doctor to charge relatively low cost office calls.
An insurance company representative “visited” and said that I wasn’t charging enough. I told them to get lost. But I don’t know what will happen if Obama goons start making “visits”.
Primary care physicians are also being kicked out of hospitals. Instead, hospitals are hiring hospitalists to follow people after admission. This interfere’s with continuity of care, but it saves money for the hospitals.
Basically, physicians are being gradually stripped of their autonomy.


35 posted on 10/02/2013 9:57:48 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Minor stuff can be taken care of by a registered nurse-no doc present.”

If you go to one of the clinics at Walgreen’s they only have PA’s who ask questions, enter answers into a computer and out pops your diagnosis and recommended treatment. They say the care is supervised by a doctor but there is never one present. Relatively quick and inexpensive if you have a minor problem.

My orthopedic physician and internal medicine doc both negotiate cash fees and don’t even mess with any insurance. We also have a small local lab that will run a variety of lab tests without having a doctor’s order and the cost is generally quite minimal. There are options out there but you sometimes have to look for them or just ask around about which docs take cash only.


36 posted on 10/02/2013 10:01:12 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Kirkwood

I think Obamacare makes these pay-for-service clinics illegal.


37 posted on 10/02/2013 10:04:48 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Avid Coug

“If Obamacare goes forward, they will make these types of clinics illegal. It will be done by federal regulation—not by laws passed by Congress. Anything that doesn’t support the socialist model intended will be stopped, one way or another. That is part of what’s at stake in this showdown over funding Obamacare, and both sides know it.”

I’m an MD, psychiatrist, in a small solo private practice. I could do something similar to the doc in the article, but the Feds could soon shut me down easily and anytime with several regulations - and they will.

I write prescriptions by hand still, and always will. That’s going to be regulated out of existence soon.

I also keep hand-written notes, because it serves me and my patients well. The notes are legible enough to defend in court, but of no use to the data-bases the gov is amassing on citizens: this will soon become a felony, if I read the intentions of the government correctly.

I do believe that the Feds, with their hands in every aspect of healthcare now, will also soon force the states to deny licenses to practitioners who do not practice ObamaCare.

Mine’s a profession that can be practiced well into old age, and where accumulated experience improves one’s abilities greatly over the years. Yet I’ll be retiring or going Galt any time now, I believe. Some foreign-trained, thickly accented doctor that patients won’t trust, or some nurse practitioner or GP doctor full of naive belief in their understanding of the field’s complexities will be caring for my patients - if there’s a healthcare system or a country left at all by that time.


38 posted on 10/02/2013 10:06:12 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Ramius

Nope. Not illegal at all.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 10:22:59 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Roccus
The silver will turn to lead. Under Zer0care, they will go under or be shut down.

Well, move 'em to the sovereign territory of the Indian tribes then.

Win, win. We get a free market medical system, and the tribes make more money than they will ever make from gambling.

40 posted on 10/02/2013 10:27:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tell me again why "shutting down all non-essential government services" is a bad thing?)
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