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Now 18 House Republicans Are Ready to Throw in the Towel in Obamacare Fight [Title Shortened]
The Blaze ^ | October 2, 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 10/02/2013 3:37:24 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

There are now reportedly a total of 18 House Republicans ready to throw in the towel in the current battle over Obamacare in order to end the first government shutdown in 17 years. As TheBlaze reported on Tuesday, Democrats needs just 17 GOP lawmakers to defect from the majority of Republicans in the House to pass a “clean” continuing resolution that fully funds both Obamacare and the federal government.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; backstabbers; cavein; congress; cowards; cr; govtshutdown; shadowdems; wobbly
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To: snarkybob

Glossing over a lot...

In your scenario the GOPe can ‘win’ with a delay of ANY sort in the Obamacare rollout, sequester level funding, and a reasonable debt limit deal.

It’ll take more than that for a ‘win’ for conservatives, of course.

But the GOPe are in great shape. That’s all very doable, heck many Dems would like that.


81 posted on 10/02/2013 5:42:00 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Timber Rattler
The list of traitors within the Republican party is unbelievable.
82 posted on 10/02/2013 5:42:34 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: SoConPubbie
Said Bill Young of FL "It's time to legislate." Martian for time to cave.

Giving Dems their way every way all the time is their idea of legislating?

Throw the bums out.

vaudine

83 posted on 10/02/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Good point.


84 posted on 10/02/2013 5:49:39 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Tenacious 1

“I don’t know what you think we should wait for. But if it’s another election you are hoping will change course and rid of us Obamacare, well then, Sir, you are delusional.”

I’m not at all delusional. Obama care is going to be what we have to go forward with. To think the Dems will just give up on the centerpiece of Obamas 2 terms is delusional.

“But we have already adjusted how we are raising them to succeed in this new America.”

This is the wisest thing I’ve seen posted today.

Yes America has changed, and no it’s not going to change back.
There’s no putting the smoke back in the bottle.
I have no idea where it goes from here. I do think the more conservatives we have in congress the more we can at least influence the cahnges.
I’ve not given up, just trying to get a real handle on what can be done.


85 posted on 10/02/2013 5:50:18 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: mrsmith

“In your scenario the GOPe can ‘win’ with a delay of ANY sort in the Obamacare rollout, sequester level funding, and a reasonable debt limit deal.”

I was only addressing the shutdown and Obamacare.
And you misunderstood me. I think the GOP blew it the minute the shutdown started. They’re bucking a tiger.


86 posted on 10/02/2013 5:53:10 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob

Your negative waves are well, asinine.


87 posted on 10/02/2013 5:59:25 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: VRWC For Truth

“Your negative waves are well, asinine.”

It’s just my opinion. But we haven’t done so well the last few years.


88 posted on 10/02/2013 6:03:36 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob

Boehner has to do nothing and he keeps his Speakership. Self preservation will rule the day. There will be no deals.


89 posted on 10/02/2013 6:07:45 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: snarkybob

I was addressing your remarks:
“...It’s too late to change course now, so thhe best the GOP can do is to really not cave. They’not going to do that because the political fallout will be catastrophic.
Ted Cruz pushed the GOPe into a fight that they can’t possibly win.”

Anyway, we’ll see. So far so good.


90 posted on 10/02/2013 6:09:40 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Hairy Reed wouldn’t recognize clean if it irrigated his colon.


91 posted on 10/02/2013 6:11:30 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: VRWC For Truth

“Boehner has to do nothing and he keeps his Speakership. Self preservation will rule the day. There will be no deals.”

Self preservation will rule the day. That’s exactly why they’ll cave. When they start to really take heat, especially the Reps in non safe districts, they’ll turn.
They’re already turning.


92 posted on 10/02/2013 6:11:33 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Timber Rattler

I do not think this is accurate and think it’s a lame stream media ploy.
The word is they asked some of these guys, if all else failed, would you vote or a “clean” bill? Most said yes but with conditions...this leaves the conditions out.
I called my guy, Forbes’ office and was told point blank, he will hold firm and not compromise.....


93 posted on 10/02/2013 6:16:01 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Wolf is that guy...
Riggell will eat it big time if he caves; he’s from Va Beach....
Wittman will eat it Big Time if he caves; his area is way Conservative.
Forbes is my guy and when I called, his aide said no way will he cave....


94 posted on 10/02/2013 6:20:45 PM PDT by matginzac
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95 posted on 10/02/2013 8:03:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: snarkybob

“Waaaah, waaaaah” snarkybob cries...those mean old Repukes can’t be winning, waaaaaah.

You’re a tool. A sleeper troll. Post back to me in a week. The GOP still won’t have caved.

Idiotic.


96 posted on 10/02/2013 8:50:04 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

““Waaaah, waaaaah” snarkybob cries...those mean old Repukes can’t be winning, waaaaaah.
You’re a tool. A sleeper troll. Post back to me in a week. The GOP still won’t have caved.
Idiotic.”

I’ve been here a long time so don’t call me a troll.
Yeah I’ll admit it if I’m wrong.
How about you. If they cave are you going to admit that you were wrong?

And it doesn’t matter if it’s a week. Let’s see how it ends. But if Obamacare gets funded are you going to admit you were wrong?


97 posted on 10/02/2013 10:44:02 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob
0bamacare is just one thing. The current budget fight that has the government shut down is *JUST* about funding from October 1 until November 15.

Yes, the Dems will cave on something. Might be the Keystone Pipeline. Might be 0bamacare. Might be something else...but the Dems *will* cave on something significant, not just give lip service.

And then in Mid October we get the debt ceiling battle. Dems will cave on that, or better, they won't, in which case the government has to live within its $3 Trillion in tax revenues without any borrowing.

After November 15 we get the *NEXT* budget fight, in which once again the Dems will cave on something significant.

Eventually, the Dems lose on everything.

I hope that doesn't make you cry...too much.

98 posted on 10/02/2013 11:02:27 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

“Eventually, the Dems lose on everything.
I hope that doesn’t make you cry...too much.”

You sound like a Dallas Cowboy fan.
We’re getting our asses kicked but we’re ahead in the first half. Then when we finish the season at 8&8 we tell everybody why we should have won the Superbowl.

Sorry, but history is on my side.


99 posted on 10/03/2013 12:25:45 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob

Just be sure to post your apologies here next week when the shutdown is still going on.

...and no left-wing weasel words from you that we got the Keystone Pipeline but not 0bamacare defunded, vice-versa, or anything else when the Dems make their major concession later.


100 posted on 10/03/2013 12:48:22 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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