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To: neverdem

Who actually wrote Obamacare? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 6:15:25 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
Who actually wrote Obamacare? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer.

Ted Kennedy and his ilk, was the best guess that I heard back when they rammed this down our throats.

4 posted on 09/27/2013 6:18:06 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Dr Ezekiel Emanuel and Peter Orszag are listed as the daddies of this monster. But you probably know that. Who were the flunkies with graduate degrees who did the actual writing of those 2,000+ pages will never be known, except to those who read their resumes.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 6:19:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

It was a stew of clauses written over the last 7 decades and had been maturing in desk drawers and now hard-drives during that time. Throw in any number of ACORN and K Street types and voilà!, 2500 pages of “as the secretary shall determine”.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 6:29:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ilovesarah2012

I was hatched in the 90s and born as Hillarycare in Bill Clintons first term.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 6:31:14 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’ve heard that Baucus gets credit for it. But I was under the impression that some economist type from MIT wrote it. I remember skimming an article where the guy came out and said that it was doomed to fail. Makes you wonder if they put it together as some sort of sick joke to see what they could get away with and now we seem to be stuck with it.


24 posted on 09/27/2013 6:51:07 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t know if I am misremembering or not but when Beck was at FOX he exposed who was behind/wrote the healthcare law.

It may take me a while but I’m digging through YouTube in hopes of hunting that particular show down.


26 posted on 09/27/2013 6:55:48 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Who actually wrote Obamacare? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer.

Good question. And the answer is vital.

Recall that a 2000 page bill seemed to materialize mysteriously in Henry Waxman's desk drawer not long after the Dems took over everything in 2008.

Clearly, somebody had prepared for this moment. Subsequently, It was found that the original House bill -- the single payer version -- had been drafted by something called The Apollo Group.

The Apollo group was a sinister collection of left-wing thinkers and activists, including the likes of William Ayers, e.g.

Recall that this was the bill that passed the House -- after another 800-or-so pages had been added to it. But it got stymied in the Senate -- chiefly thanks to Joe Lieberman's insistence on involving (and protecting) the insurance interests in Connecticut.

Since, at the time, Lieberman held the 60th vote, the 'Rats had to totally change directions in mid-stream -- creating the current monstrosity. This bill appears to be the product of the 'Rat senatorial staff. And, obviously, it was badly botched -- due to competing interests, the pressure of time and the enormity of the project.

However, it was hastily passed by the Senate -- before Scott Brown, who had become the 41st vote against Obamacare, could be seated.

The House then had to swallow the Senate bill whole -- because of Brown's election. Which required Bart Stupak to famously fold on abortion...and subsequently retire to a cushy lobbyist job.

Understand that the current disaster of a bill -- involving insurance companies and forced upon the 'Rats by Joe Lieberman -- is not the single-payer solution they really wanted in their heart-of-hearts.

Consequently, any attempt to "fix" Obamacare will be designed to return the system to single-payer.

27 posted on 09/27/2013 6:56:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Obamacare was written in 1993 and 1994 but back then it was Hillarycare. I dated a woman who was working with a consultant for an education arm of the AMA from 1994 to 1997 (a redheaded knockout BTW). They had a few different orgs, think tanks as well as advocacy groups like PP and CSPI and a union group as well as a “gay” group. They all had a hand in writing this and it was shoved in a drawer in 1995 and barely touched until it was dusted off after the 2006 nightmare.

IMO, it was still in parts, unlinked and uncollected. It was done, for the most part, before the internet and e-mail was mainstream so there was not “one single copy” in existence on a server somewhere that was reconciled with all the existing legislation at the time. (It was probably on 5 1/4” floppys). This didn’t have one manager but it was compiled using a list created by disparate groups with the intention of bringing it all together in 1995 but the people voted the dems out and it got shoved aside.

To answer your question, it wasn’t written, it was compiled and it was never actually read through and reconciled because that task became an after thought. I kept hearing “it’s better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission” whenever I had to interact with those people so I imagine that this current progression of surprise revelations was what they expected all along. It was a lot like the trillion dollar stimulus bill which was just a collection of democrat party payoffs that piled up in the party members desks over the years that they could not pass under GWB. They just turned it into a list, formatted in 8 1/2 x 14 and passed it.

IMO, they tried to make sense out of it but since the window was closing (2010 elections) they had to move and just passed the collection of individual sheets of paper in legal format with hopes that they could reconcile it later, in various committees which is why they language “as the Secretary of HHS shall deem” is in there so often.


28 posted on 09/27/2013 7:11:45 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Revolting cat!; IncPen; La Lydia
Who actually wrote Obamacare? I can’t seem to find a definitive answer.

Who wrote Romneycare? IIRC, that was the starting point.

31 posted on 09/27/2013 7:43:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Ezekiel Emmanuel, Rahm’s brother helped write it.....he has EVIL VIEWS about WHO should get health care.


43 posted on 09/28/2013 2:39:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m pretty sure it was devised by the spirit of Rube Goldberg.


49 posted on 09/29/2013 7:07:23 AM PDT by EDINVA (/1)
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