[gbscott1954]

I live in Mississippi. I just called my Senators. Senator Wicker's aid said the usual song and dance about him being opposed to Obamacare and that all the GOP Senators being opposed. I told him that it was a joke, take John McCain for example. I told him that we were watching how he not only voted, but how he conducted himself.

When I got Senator Cochran's office I urged him to vote No on cloture. She asked me which one and proceeded to say that there were 6 cloture votes and all the Senate voted yes on the first one yesterday. She said that Senator was very experienced about how to vote so don't worry about it! Does anyone have any info as to what the 6 cloture votes are? Please educate all of us!

[ExTexasRedhead]

Everyone should realize that the political Elitists in DC don’t give a damn about We The People. They’re out for themselves to satisfy their quest for power. They’re, IMO, self-serving debris.

[Paine in the Neck]

I'm not sure of the enumeration of the six but it is the last one that is the critical one. That is the one that will end debate and send the amended bill to a final vote.

[csmusaret]

Capitol switchboard: (202) 224-3121...Ask for any Senator, doesn’t have to be your Senator. Ask for Kay Hagan from North Carolina for instance. Jusy say, “I am from Raleigh and I blah blah blah” She is up for re-election and might be influenceable.

[bigbob]

Here’s what his response would be if he were honest:

“Sit down son, and let the Smart People do the thinking around here”

[Breto]

She was playing you for a moron.... She knew exactly what you meant....

[Boogieman]

“When I got Senator Cochran’s office I urged him to vote No on cloture. She asked me which one...”

The correct answer to that is: ALL OF THEM! Any vote that helps implement Obamadoesn’tcare, vote no!

[cotton1706]

There were no cloture votes yesterday. The vote yesterday was on the motion to proceed (to debate). This basically brings the bill to the floor (from either a committee or the House).

From the motion to proceed comes the debate. But there will be no debate because Harry Reid has made it a habit to file for cloture (an end to the debate) at the same time he files a bill. And this mandates that there be at least an additional 30 hours of debate and Reid can call for an end of the debate any time after that, which in reality, is immiediately after that.

Once debate has been ended (cloture), senators can amend the bill, but Reid will fill the “amendment tree” allowing only his amendment to strike, which will strip the defunding language. That amendment will require only a majority so they will pass that amenement, then the bill.

So to simplify, motion to proceed to debate, then the debate, but debate can be cut off by cloture, thirty hours must intervene between filing cloture and the actual cloture vote, end of debate, amendments, passage of the bill.

[gbscott1954]

To all you experienced posters. I don’t usually post so I might not have done it correctly. If you had suggestions for me feel free to let me know. But “be gentle with me Mr. Spade!”

[Uncle Miltie]

Cloture means helping Harry Reid fund 0bamaMcConnellCare.

[cotton1706]

And by the way, you can call back the smarmy little puke and tell her that there was just one vote yesterday, the motion to proceed vote:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_113_1.htm

[Graewoulf]

MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS !
State Senator Party Phone
AK Mark Begich D (202) 224-3004
AK Lisa Murkowski R (202) 224-6665
AL Jeff Sessions R (202) 224-4124
AL Richard C. Shelby R (202) 224-5744
AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843
AR Mark L. Pryor D (202) 224-2353
AZ Jeff Flake R (202) 224-4521
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235
CA Barbara Boxer D (202) 224-3553
CA Dianne Feinstein D (202) 224-3841
CO Michael F. Bennet D (202) 224-5852
CO Mark Udall D (202) 224-5941
CT Richard Blumenthal D (202) 224-2823
CT Christopher Murphy D (202) 224-4041
DE Thomas R. Carper D (202) 224-2441
DE Christopher A. Coons D (202) 224-5042
FL Bill Nelson D (202) 224-5274
FL Marco Rubio R (202) 224-3041
GA Saxby Chambliss R (202) 224-3521
GA Johnny Isakson R (202) 224-3643
HI Mazie K. Hirono D (202) 224-6361
HI Brian Schatz D (202) 224-3934
IA Chuck Grassley R (202) 224-3744
IA Tom Harkin D (202) 224-3254
ID Mike Crapo R (202) 224-6142
ID James E. Risch R (202) 224-2752
IL Richard J. Durbin D (202) 224-2152
IL Mark Kirk R (202) 224-2854
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
IN Joe Donnelly D (202) 224-4814
KS Jerry Moran R (202) 224-6521
KS Pat Roberts R (202) 224-4774
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343
LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824
LA David Vitter R (202) 224-4623
MA Edward Markey D (202) 224-2742
MA Elizabeth Warren D (202) 224-4543
MD Benjamin L. Cardin D (202) 224-4524
MD Barbara A. Mikulski D (202) 224-4654
ME Susan M. Collins R (202) 224-2523
ME Angus S. King I (202) 224-5344
MI Carl Levin D (202) 224-6221
MI Debbie Stabenow D (202) 224-4822
MN Al Franken D (202) 224-5641
MN Amy Klobuchar D (202) 224-3244
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
MO Claire McCaskill D (202) 224-6154
MS Thad Cochran R (202) 224-5054
MS Roger F. Wicker R (202) 224-6253
MT Max Baucus D (202) 224-2651
MT Jon Tester D (202) 224-2644
NC Richard Burr R (202) 224-3154
NC Kay R. Hagan D (202) 224-6342
ND Heidi Heitkamp D (202) 224-2043
ND John Hoeven R (202) 224-2551
NE Deb Fischer R (202) 224-6551
NE Mike Johanns R (202) 224-4224
NH Kelly Ayotte R (202) 224-3324
NH Jeanne Shaheen D (202) 224-2841
NJ Jeff Chiesa R (202) 224-3224
NJ Robert Menendez D (202) 224-4744
NM Martin Heinrich D (202) 224-5521
NM Tom Udall D (202) 224-6621
NV Dean Heller R (202) 224-6244
NV Harry Reid D (202) 224-3542
NY Kirsten E. Gillibrand D (202) 224-4451
NY Charles E. Schumer D (202) 224-6542
OH Sherrod Brown D (202) 224-2315
OH Rob Portman R (202) 224-3353
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
OK James M. Inhofe R (202) 224-4721
OR Jeff Merkley D (202) 224-3753
OR Ron Wyden D (202) 224-5244
PA Robert P. Casey D (202) 224-6324
PA Patrick J. Toomey R (202) 224-4254
RI Jack Reed D (202) 224-4642
RI Sheldon Whitehouse D (202) 224-2921
SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
SC Tim Scott R (202) 224-6121
SD Tim Johnson D (202) 224-5842
SD John Thune R (202) 224-2321
TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
TN Bob Corker R (202) 224-3344
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
UT Mike Lee R (202) 224-5444
VA Tim Kaine D (202) 224-4024
VA Mark R. Warner D (202) 224-2023
VT Patrick J. Leahy D (202) 224-4242
VT Bernard Sanders I (202) 224-5141
WA Maria Cantwell D (202) 224-3441
WA Patty Murray D (202) 224-2621
WI Tammy Baldwin D (202) 224-5653
WI Ron Johnson R (202) 224-5323
WV Joe Manchin D (202) 224-3954
WV John D. Rockefeller D (202) 224-6472
WY John Barrasso R (202) 224-6441
WY Michael B. Enzi R (202) 224-3424

- See more at: http://tedcruzforsenate.org/tell-your-senators-to-oppose-cloture-on-h-j-res-59/#sthash.CvqYzXvd.s4d7EOIg.dpuf

[zerosix]

Go to dontfundit.com, they will list the No votes on Cloture but I know that my own dear GOP Senator, Pat Roberts, from KS voted NO! I believe, however, that my other not so dear newly elected Senator, Jerry Moran (moron now) voted “with the leadership.........” Barbara Streisand

[JediJones]

Cruz’ page says this:

MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS TO OPPOSE CLOTURE ON H.J. RES 59
We must oppose cloture on H.J. Res 59, so that Harry Reid and Senate Democrats cannot sneak in funding for Obamacare. We need you to call your Senators right now: tell them to oppose cloture on H.J. Res 59 and remind them that a vote for cloture IS a for funding Obamacare.

[mrsmith]

Call your Dem Senators and ask them to support a one year delay because the “roll out” and the rules are so confusing.
If you’re ‘confused’ they’ll know you are a Dem voter!

If they ask Harry for a delaying amendment -they won’t make any vote Harry doesn’t approve of- it will weaken Harry and show lack of support for Obamacare in his caucus.

The downside is Harry might accede to it and defunding would be stopped in it’s tracks, but they’re not that smart or brave. But a year’s delay is the House fallback position and if it’s already in hand they can ask for some other oncession.

Anyway, at least they’ll listen and get scared that the media won’t be able to protect them from the roll out problems.

[Guenevere]

Excellent thread.....Keep reminding people!!! :)

[Red Steel]

One of those six clotures that shuts off debate to the overall funding bill.

Where then Reid will use a procedure called the “motion to strike” to strip out the defunding language that only needs 51 votes after cloture.

[The Great RJ]

Save your energy for voting these elitists out of office. They do not care about what we the people want just their own continued power in Washington. The GOP leadership are just the eunuchs in Emperor Obama’s court.

[bestintxas]

Cornyn is not accepting any calls on any of his contact phones numbers.

he is saying “Nyet” to his constituents.

I say we need to “Nyet’ Cornyn

[workerbee]

She asked me which one and proceeded to say that there were 6 cloture votes and all the Senate voted yes on the first one yesterday. She said that Senator was very experienced about how to vote so don't worry about it!

There's one response to condescending little smarty-britches statements like that:

[true believer forever]

MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS TO OPPOSE CLOTURE ON H.J. RES 59

Oppose cloture on H. J. Res. 59, so that Harry Reid and Senate Democrats cannot sneak in funding for Obamacare.

Call your Senators right now: tell them to oppose cloture on H.J. Res 59 and remind them that a vote for cloture IS a for funding Obamacare.

AND REMIND THEM YOU ARE WATCHING...

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VOTING WITH REID:  Burr, McConnell, Cornyn, McLame, Graham, Boozman, Coburn.

WAVERING:

KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343

WI Ron Johnson R (202) 224-5323

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Here are your Cribbies for talking to others (TTO)

In simple terms:  If you vote FOR cloture, Reid can't insert an amendment to fund obamacare.  The bill goes to the House, keeps the defund part.  Got that?  (because I really don't)

Tell your senators to vote NO on cloture. 

Cruz said Reid wants to use "brute political power to force Obamacare funding through with just Democrats" like he passed Obamacare three  years ago. 

"If the majority is going to run the minority over with a train, the minority has the ability to stop them," Cruz said.

"A vote for cloture is a vote for Obamacare." 

Cruz insisted that since it takes 60 votes to get cloture to stop Reid from inserting an amendment to fund Obamacare, Republicans can unite to deny "cloture when the Majority Leader is abusing power." That, Cruz said, would be supporting House Republicans and the House bill because a cloture vote would allow Reid to ultimately change the House's bill by adding Obamacare funding to it.

A VOTE FOR CLOSURE IS A VOTE FOR FUNDING OBAMACARE. .. starting today you have a year to engineer ways to make sure people understand this... WITH EMPHASIS ON THE ACUTE HERE AND NOW.

"If Senate Republicans stand together, we can stop Harry Reid from doing this," Cruz said.  Cruz also said if Reid succeeds in adding Obamacare funding because other Senate Republicans vote for cloture, the House has to again lead and stay strong to defund Obamacare since the House is the only body where Republicans have a majority. If that happens, Cruz said Senate Democrats in red states--like Sens. Mark Pryor (D-AK) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA)--can then be targeted to defund the bill that is harming Americans, especially working class Americans who are losing health insurance and seeing their premiums rise.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/22/Cruz-to-Senate-GOP-A-Vote-for-Cloture-Is-a-Vote-for-Obamacare

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EXPLAIN THIS TO AS MONEY OTHERS YOU KNOW WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND.   Then give them list and link with numbers...

                                              TARGET LIST  1

UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
SD John Thune R (202) 224-2321
SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235

KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343

???? AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843

HEAD START: If that happens, Cruz said Senate Democrats in red states--like Sens. Mark Pryor (D-AK) and Mary Landrieu (D-LA)--can then be targeted to defund the bill that is harming Americans, especially working class Americans who are losing health insurance and seeing their premiums rise.

LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824

AR Mark Pryor (202) 224-2353

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State Senator Party Phone

AK Mark Begich D (202) 224-3004
AK Lisa Murkowski R (202) 224-6665
AL Jeff Sessions R (202) 224-4124
AL Richard C. Shelby R (202) 224-5744
AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235
CA Barbara Boxer D (202) 224-3553
CA Dianne Feinstein D (202) 224-3841
CO Michael F. Bennet D (202) 224-5852
CO Mark Udall D (202) 224-5941
CT Richard Blumenthal D (202) 224-2823
CT Christopher Murphy D (202) 224-4041
DE Thomas R. Carper D (202) 224-2441
DE Christopher A. Coons D (202) 224-5042
FL Bill Nelson D (202) 224-5274
FL Marco Rubio R (202) 224-3041
GA Saxby Chambliss R (202) 224-3521
GA Johnny Isakson R (202) 224-3643
HI Mazie K. Hirono D (202) 224-6361
HI Brian Schatz D (202) 224-3934
IA Chuck Grassley R (202) 224-3744
IA Tom Harkin D (202) 224-3254
ID Mike Crapo R (202) 224-6142
ID James E. Risch R (202) 224-2752
IL Richard J. Durbin D (202) 224-2152
IL Mark Kirk R (202) 224-2854
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
IN Joe Donnelly D (202) 224-4814
KS Jerry Moran R (202) 224-6521
KS Pat Roberts R (202) 224-4774
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343
LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824
LA David Vitter R (202) 224-4623
MA Edward Markey D (202) 224-2742
MA Elizabeth Warren D (202) 224-4543
MD Benjamin L. Cardin D (202) 224-4524
MD Barbara A. Mikulski D (202) 224-4654
ME Susan M. Collins R (202) 224-2523
ME Angus S. King I (202) 224-5344
MI Carl Levin D (202) 224-6221
MI Debbie Stabenow D (202) 224-4822
MN Al Franken D (202) 224-5641
MN Amy Klobuchar D (202) 224-3244
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
MO Claire McCaskill D (202) 224-6154
MS Thad Cochran R (202) 224-5054
MS Roger F. Wicker R (202) 224-6253
MT Max Baucus D (202) 224-2651
MT Jon Tester D (202) 224-2644
NC Richard Burr R (202) 224-3154
NC Kay R. Hagan D (202) 224-6342
ND Heidi Heitkamp D (202) 224-2043
ND John Hoeven R (202) 224-2551
NE Deb Fischer R (202) 224-6551
NE Mike Johanns R (202) 224-4224
NH Kelly Ayotte R (202) 224-3324
NH Jeanne Shaheen D (202) 224-2841
NJ Jeff Chiesa R (202) 224-3224
NJ Robert Menendez D (202) 224-4744
NM Martin Heinrich D (202) 224-5521
NM Tom Udall D (202) 224-6621
NV Dean Heller R (202) 224-6244
NV Harry Reid D (202) 224-3542
NY Kirsten E. Gillibrand D (202) 224-4451
NY Charles E. Schumer D (202) 224-6542
OH Sherrod Brown D (202) 224-2315
OH Rob Portman R (202) 224-3353
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
OK James M. Inhofe R (202) 224-4721
OR Jeff Merkley D (202) 224-3753
OR Ron Wyden D (202) 224-5244
PA Robert P. Casey D (202) 224-6324
PA Patrick J. Toomey R (202) 224-4254
RI Jack Reed D (202) 224-4642
RI Sheldon Whitehouse D (202) 224-2921
SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
SC Tim Scott R (202) 224-6121
SD Tim Johnson D (202) 224-5842
SD John Thune R (202) 224-2321
TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
TN Bob Corker R (202) 224-3344
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
UT Mike Lee R (202) 224-5444
VA Tim Kaine D (202) 224-4024
VA Mark R. Warner D (202) 224-2023
VT Patrick J. Leahy D (202) 224-4242
VT Bernard Sanders I (202) 224-5141
WA Maria Cantwell D (202) 224-3441
WA Patty Murray D (202) 224-2621
WI Tammy Baldwin D (202) 224-5653
WV Joe Manchin D (202) 224-3954
WV John D. Rockefeller D (202) 224-6472
WY John Barrasso R (202) 224-6441
WY Michael B. Enzi R (202) 224-3424

http://www.contactsenators.com/

NOTABLE QUOTES

Now that we have your attention, you sorry US Senators, keep in mind that we will replace you with those who will gladly correct your errors - - - .

So, scrub and clean by 2014 !

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick ————— 

~ Graewolf

The problem now is that the Rinos are invested in Cruz losing. Otherwise, their criticism of his tactics looks like defeatism and makes them look like losers, while Cruz becomes the victorious hero. Can’t have that.   ~ Defiant

Cruz has been urging his colleagues to vote against cloture on the bill that keeps the government running and defunds Obamacare, even though the measure is exactly what he's long demanded.

Why? Because he wants to prevent Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) from stripping out the defund provision and passing a new continuing resolution that restores funding for the health-care law with a simple majority. Under Senate rules, Reid can do that. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/24/club-for-growth-sticks-by-ted-cruz-on-obamacare-will-score-cloture-vote/

Lee: GOP Has the Votes to Stop Funding Obamacare

Opposing cloture to end debate is one of the few tools the minority has in the Senate to prevent the majority from imposing its partisan will on the American people or using procedural tricks to limit the minority’s rights. Republicans have defended their rights against Sen. Harry Reid’s procedural tricks several times in the past. For example, in 2011, Republicans used 44 votes to block ending debate on the Small Business Innovation Research Act, and 51 votes to prevent ending debate on the Public Works and Economic Development Reauthorization Act (4 Democrats voted with a united Republican caucus). In 2012, Republicans gathered 42 votes to oppose ending debate on the Highway Bill.

Read more: href="http://www.kcsg.com/view/full_story/23694831/article-Lee--GOP-Has-the-Votes-to-Stop-Funding-Obamacare?instance=more_local_news1#ixzz2g1jgvjhK">KCSG Television - Lee GOP Has the Votes to Stop Funding Obamacare

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