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Panhandling and the future of urban America
The Dallas Morning News ^ | September 2, 2013 | Froma Harrop, The Providence Journal

Posted on 09/25/2013 6:30:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Indianapolis offers the full urban deal: great architecture, hot restaurants, famous museums and a walkable downtown. It also has had one of the worst panhandler problems I’ve seen. At almost every street corner, it seemed, someone was squeezing you for money.

In August, Indianapolis joined numerous other cities that have attempted to curb aggressive begging. And as has happened elsewhere, the American Civil Liberties Union immediately filed a suit.

“The ACLU of Indiana,” its executive director, Jane Henegar, said, “believes in the power of the First Amendment to give everyone a voice, even when those voices confront us with our greatest challenges, such as poverty and homelessness.”

Defenders of panhandling commonly portray these laws as heartless campaigns to remove ragged people — the homeless, vagrants, loiterers and beggars — from the public’s view.

No doubt many businesses struggling to revive their downtown want these people gone. Courts have also identified another right — to use public streets without being confronted with demands for money. Depending on urban comfort levels, people’s response may vary from guilty compliance to mild annoyance to feeling threatened.

We’re talking about the future of urban America. As cities became repositories of the poor, the will to preserve their nice public things, be they libraries or parks, withered. As John Kenneth Galbraith put it, the nation became a land of “private affluence” and “public squalor.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: begging; economy; panhandling; recession
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Slouching towards Calcutta.
1 posted on 09/25/2013 6:30:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indianapolis actually put secured donation boxes in the downtown area. Rather than give to a guy who might blow it on dope it allowed folks to give to a reputable charity that assists and houses the homeless. All that means nothing to the ACLU, of course.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 6:42:20 PM PDT by opus86
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thankfully here in NJ our cities are becoming very Hispanic, and they don’t panhandle. Something about their macho culture prohibits a man from begging for money for nothing (I’m not kidding).

At one intersection in Newark over the summer I came upon three characters at a red light: an Asian (from the subcontinent) selling flowers, a Hispanic selling bottled water from a cooler, and a black guy simply asking for money.

THAT is the future of urban America, until there are no more blacks. In Jersey City in particular, Asians and Hispanics will be the future population (and neither has “white guilt”).


3 posted on 09/25/2013 6:47:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (The talking heads have admitted is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many of us are old enough to remember when schools taught us about the exotic dark corners of the world where beggars existed, places like India, Mexico, and the Arab nations.

We’ve come a long way baby.


4 posted on 09/25/2013 6:49:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes, I live in a nicer mobile home park and probably 75%+ of my neighbors are Hispanic. Have never seen a beggar and almost every male has a job or a business and MUCH nicer cars than I have at this point in time.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ansel12
remember when schools taught us

Vaguely . . .

6 posted on 09/25/2013 6:51:59 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: kearnyirish2

Do they replace the beggars or merely dilute the beggars?


7 posted on 09/25/2013 6:54:33 PM PDT by posterchild (Can I get me a new Secretary of State?)
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To: kearnyirish2

That is interesting, and actually a hopeful view.


8 posted on 09/25/2013 6:54:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left never changes do they?

They will marvel at the architecture and the potemkin village of big government projects and complain when they notice the little people are all visible. Not because they are impoverished by big government to fund the big opera house and fancy libraries and other edifices.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 6:57:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ansel12

Remember all the people
Who live in far off lands
In strange and lovely cities
Or roam the desert sands,
Or farm the mountain pastures
Or till the endless plains
Where children wade through rice fields
And watch the camel trains.

Some work in sultry forests
Where apes swing to and fro,
Some fish in mighty rivers,
Some hunt across the snow.
Remember all God’s children,
Who yet have never Heard
The truth that comes from Jesus,
The glory of His Word.

God bless the men and women
Who serve Him overseas;
God raise up more to help them
To set the nations free,
Till all the distant people
In every foreign place
Shall understand His kingdom,
And come into His grace.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 7:00:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If no one gave them any money they would disapear!!!


11 posted on 09/25/2013 7:00:16 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Heck, I remember when, during a discussion and you couldn’t remember a commonly taught date or name, that you could turn to the teen or the 20 something who’s high school memory was still fresh and ask him for it, like when was Lincoln born? or when was the battle of Yorktown? When did those two railroad building efforts meet up? What was the name of that famous general who was at???


12 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

13 posted on 09/25/2013 7:14:16 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: ansel12

They’ve been encouraged. Cook County, IL (Obamacountry) closed down the insane asylums and released them onto the street. Many are fakes, utter fakes.

They should be arrested for endangerment. They stand in traffic, etc. They should be housed. There is no reason to beg in America.


14 posted on 09/25/2013 7:21:51 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in Indy.
These aren’t “beggars” in the Calcutta sense.
They are people making a good living at panhandling.
I’ve seen many interviews where these folks will admit that it pays far above min wage.


15 posted on 09/25/2013 7:24:09 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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Then why aren’t we all doing it? LOL


16 posted on 09/25/2013 7:28:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two blocks from posh Union Square in San Francisco, I used to give a sweet little black woman a dollar every time I passed by. Friends thought I was nuts. She’d only buy drugs with it, they said. But no, she went into the deli on the corner every time and came out with a piece of fruit to eat. How in the world this woman fell through the cracks was a mystery. She was clearly someone’s grandma if not great grammie.

That was twenty years ago. Many more panhandlers now, but some might be someone’s sweet grandma who really needs to eat something. You can probably tell by looking at them, which are truly needy and which are crooks. Hopefully.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 7:32:23 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: kearnyirish2

I am a volunteer with the homeless and have yet to see a Mexican come in for the free meal.

Of course, they have jobs,


18 posted on 09/25/2013 7:36:24 PM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whenever a panhandler asks for money I just politely say, “Do you take plastic”. One guy said, “Oh, good one.”

I don’t carry cash in downtown areas. None.


19 posted on 09/25/2013 7:53:23 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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20 posted on 09/25/2013 8:01:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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