Posted on 09/23/2013 4:57:28 PM PDT by servo1969
Tonight on Special Report with Bret Baier both Tucker Carlson and Charles Krauthammer were excoriating Cruz over the issue of Obamacare defunding. That's fine.
If you think he's wrong or foolish or whatever, make the case.
But as part of their arguments each brought up that Cruz was born in Canada. Carlson mentioning that there were questions as to whether Cruz could be president and Krauthammer joking that Cruz could be Prime Minister of Canada.
What did that have to do with anything? The topic was defunding Obamacare and Senate strategy.
.@TuckerCarlson @krauthammer What does Cruz being born in Canada have 2 do w Obamacare? Y bring it up tonight on @SpecialReport ?
— Legal Insurrection (@LegInsurrection) September 23, 2013
.@Krauthammer: "@TedCruz can be PM of Canada" - yuck yuck - don't u have better arguments than that over Obamacare defunding?
— Legal Insurrection (@LegInsurrection) September 23, 2013
You can make the case against Cruz’s tactics, if you want, without going where you went.
This was my 17,000th tweet ever, whatever numerological significance that holds:
FWIW @tedcruz eligible 2B president http://t.co/4SQ5pTEjlB cc: @TuckerCarlson @krauthammer
— Legal Insurrection (@LegInsurrection) September 23, 2013
As much of a pain as it was to do the research, at least it’s out there: natural born Citizens: Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz.
Bookmark it. If tonight is any indication, you’ll need it for the 2016 Republican primaries.
I am starting to hate them all. They are so completely out of touch.
Thats fine - I'm sick of the same old cast of losers calling themselves 'conservatives' prattling on & on while Rome burns. Time to try something new.
Cruz is quickly becoming the male version of Palin as far as the ruling elite is concerned.
My gawd, if that’s not the truth!
I spent some time sleeping with the enemy inside the beltway last week. Beltway folks of all political stripes are on another planet. Bizarro world.
NONE of the State-Run-Media "Experts" are worth a sh$#...IMHO
They ALL are beholdin' to the Governments ALLOWABLE reporting or comments, and they ALL follow the Agenda-promotion they're hired to do....
See post #5!
Pay no mind to French swine like these.
They have very little idea whats going on outside their 68 square miles.
I have lost all respect for Krauthammer and always thought Tucker is a squish!
Rove makes me puke!
All-Star schmucks.
We, the Tea Party, have moved on.
The Framers never expressed what “natural born Citizen” meant
Be that as it may, there are several concepts enshrined in the Constitution that are not specifically spelled out because at the time, they were assumed to be unassailable or linguistically pure enough to be beyond argument (i.e. common knowledge).
In cases of a lack of a pure definition, I believe the Founders entrusted the citizens of the Republic, the People, to be the ultimate arbiters of the truth as it should be understood. Just because the term is not defined does not mean the Founders did not intend it to mean something. Perhaps, at the time of drafting, the term "natural born" was understood to mean something that was common knowledge and never questioned. The fact that they further elucidated "or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" tells me that they understood that someone might be foreign born but in the future, that would not be the case, hence the definitive use of "or" or a lack of use of this phrasing at all.
I'm not trying to read more into this than there is, but I believe the Founders would've wanted us to define "natural born" in the confines of "jus sanguinis" where both parents were holders of citizenship in the United States only. In the case of Barack Obama, his father was a British subject, making Obama "jus soli" but not "jus sanguinis." I believe Ted Cruz, for the reasons stated in the article, is not a "natural born" citizen in the strict interpretation of "jus sanguinis" since his father was a Canadian citizen.
Then again, I'm neither an historian or a legal scholar. I'm just a citizen of this Republic trying to stay educated on her history and her future.
FWIW, I think Cruz would make a damn fine president.
I pretty laugh at them as they don’t realize what is happening.. Pretty much have become irelevant
Whom, on this website,is surprised???????????Anyone?????
I’m not concerned.
Big ditto.
Nor am I. If the Lefties want to drag this to Supremes, they’d ultimately be imperiling Obama and whatever legacy he hopes to leave. If it was found that Obama was not a NBC, the Constitutional crisis we’d face would be massive. Then again, with the Left having a tendency to want to cut off their nose to spite their face, I wouldn’t put it past them to do something like this just to keep Cruz, who they deem an immediate and very real threat, out of the White House.
Then again, Lefties also have a tendency toward lunacy on the order of Oswald and Hinkley.
If any of you REALLY want to know what you are talking about when it comes to NBC, you MUST read this comprehensive and definitive essay on the subject. It is very long, that’s why it’s “comprehensive”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2840767/posts
I can’t read 800 posts to see if this was already addressed or not. Also it has been posted on previous occasions and you may have seen it. I implore you to take the time to actually read the whole thing. It’s dry at times and harder for non-lawyers like me, but it is the best and I would say indisputable proof of what a natural born Citizen is.
He covers EVERYTHING! You could not read and understand this essay without knowing exactly what a natural born Citizen is and ALWAYS was, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Original intent, case law, natural law, common law, British law, constitution, amendments, framers, founders (Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, James Madison, David Ramsay, George Mason), historians, dictionaries, definitions & meanings, law books, treatises and cases, Vattel validated, legal principles of the Supreme Court, and on & on.
I thought I knew alot about this issue, but I was blown away by the depth to which (screen name, sourcery) has gone to prove the meaning and intended and actual constitutional meaning of natural born Citizen (and citizens of all stripes for that matter).
Screw you, Tucker Carlson.
Screw you, Charles Krauthammer.
Screw you, Karl Rove.
Screw you, Brit Hume.
And screw all the other RINOs who aren’t listed here, every single one of you.
And John Cornyn, you’re not fooling ANYONE, so screw you, too.
< /unladylike behavior >
Gosh, that felt good.
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