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Obama accuses gun control opponents of fighting to allow ‘dangerous people’ to own guns
The Daily Caller ^ | 9-22-2013 | Neil Munro

Posted on 09/22/2013 9:10:37 AM PDT by servo1969

President Barack Obama accused opponents of gun control of fighting to allow “dangerous people” to own guns in a speech on Saturday to activists at Congressional Black Caucus, promising he would revive his failed gun control efforts following recent urban shootings in Chicago and Washington D.C.’s Navy Yard.

“We can’t rest until all of our children can go to school or walk down the street free from the fear that they will be struck down by a stray bullet,” he said, citing recent shooting in Chicago’s African-American districts.

The promise of gun control came with the incendiary suggestion that gun-rights supporters are eager to provide guns to criminals in Chicago, D.C. and other Democrat-run cities that have a high crime rate.

“As long as there are those who fight to make it as easy as possible for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun, then we’ve got to work as hard as possible for the sake of our children,” he said.

In 2008, Obama ran on a “hope and change” promise of restoring bipartisan cooperation in D.C. — but on Saturday, he sketched out the beginnings of a P.R. campaign to overcome bipartisan resistance in the Senate to federal regulations on guns.

“Tomorrow… I’ll be meeting and mourning with families in this city who now know the same unspeakable grief of families in Newtown, and Aurora, and Tucson, and Chicago, and New Orleans and all across the country — people whose loved ones were torn from them without headlines sometimes, or public outcry,” he said.

Obama suffered a critical political defeat in April when the Senate rejected his proposals for stricter gun control.

His effort to curb gun rights has been stalled by several Democratic Senators who are facing 2014 elections in their GOP-leaning states. The Democrats’ Senate leader, Sen. Harry Reid, said on Thursday that Democrats didn’t have the votes to pass gun control legislation in 2013.

The successful recall votes in September of two pro-gun control Democratic state Senators in Colorado also reduces the likelihood of Obama’s latest efforts.

But the renewed campaign for gun control may increase African-Americans and suburban-swing voter turnout in the 2014 mid-term elections.

Obama’s red-meat rhetoric also included a defense of his Obamacare healthcare network, and nostalgic invocations of anti-discrimination marches from half a century ago. He did not discuss how he planned to jumpstart stalled economy or lower the very high unemployment rate among African-Americans, but instead blamed companies and wealthy Americans for the 13 percent unemployment rate among African-Americans.

“At a time when black unemployment remains twice as high as white unemployment, at a time when working Americans of all races have seen their incomes and wages stagnate even as corporate profits and the incomes of folks at the very top are soaring, we’ve got to pick up the torch of economic justice,” he declared, shortly before he urged passage of a hike in the minimum wage.

He also slammed the GOP’s new budget, which funds the government but not the Obamacare network.

GOP legislators, Obama said, “are actually willing to see the United States default on its obligations and plunge this country back into a painful recession if they can’t deny the basic security of health care to millions of Americans… We’re not going to allow anyone to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people just to make an ideological point.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: bunkerhill7
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41 posted on 09/22/2013 10:41:20 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: servo1969
Obama accuses gun control opponents of fighting to allow ‘dangerous people’ to own guns

Dang it!
It's happened again!
I agree with Obama, completely.

The Minute Men were 'dangerous people'...

To the Mercenaries of the despot king!

42 posted on 09/22/2013 10:41:32 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: servo1969

“Dangerous” = “anyone who disagrees with me”. I’ll keep mine, thanks.


43 posted on 09/22/2013 10:41:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: piytar; All

“Dangerous people” is just Obama code talk for “Anyone who opposes my policies”.


44 posted on 09/22/2013 10:48:10 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: joe fonebone
my question is....
who determines who is dangerous and who is not????

Alas!
All too often it's the same mindless mental deficient who loves to pontificate, "It's the right thing to do!"

America honestly looked forward for decades, for the first black president.

If only they had known!

45 posted on 09/22/2013 10:50:31 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: SkyDancer

“Chi-congo”

Ooooo.....now THAT’s not politically correct! Accurate, yes.


46 posted on 09/22/2013 10:54:42 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: servo1969

he’s fighting so ONLY dangerous people have guns - thugs, and govt thugs.


47 posted on 09/22/2013 10:55:01 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: servo1969
Obama accuses gun control opponents of fighting to allow ‘dangerous people’ to own guns

.... dangerous people, like the Mexican Sinaloan drug cartel? No, wait, that would be YOU, Mr. Obama, who hand-delivered the weapons to them.

.... dangerous people, like the Syrian Rebel / Al Qaeda terrorists? No, wait, that would be YOU, Mr. Obama, who hand-delivered the weapons to them.

And those are only two that we KNOW about. Who knows who else you have hand-delivered weapons to, while trying to disarm us at the same time.

Barack Obama is a sworn enemy of the United States of America.

48 posted on 09/22/2013 10:59:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: tumblindice
I'm Framing That!
Wish there were a bigger version!

Seriously, does this come poster size?

49 posted on 09/22/2013 11:04:25 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: servo1969

““We can’t rest until all of our children can go to school or walk down the street free from the fear that they will be struck down by a stray bullet,” he said, citing recent shooting in Chicago’s African-American districts. “

Teach the gang bangers how to shoot.


50 posted on 09/22/2013 11:09:17 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: servo1969

Show me a man worth his salt that can’t be dangerous when the need arises.


51 posted on 09/22/2013 11:12:32 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: servo1969

to Obama , anyone with a gun is a dangerous person, unless their protecting him.


52 posted on 09/22/2013 1:14:38 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"he’s fighting so ONLY dangerous people have guns - thugs, and govt thugs."

This is exactly right. If he was really interested in keeping guns out of dangerous people's hands he would do the opposite of what is being done now.

53 posted on 09/22/2013 1:34:11 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: servo1969
As a side point, if the background checks failed miserably on vetting this killer, how do we expect the same system will work when it is forced to do 20 million background checks on illegal aliens, aka "newly amnestied US citizens" who come from lord knows how many countries around the world?
54 posted on 09/22/2013 1:48:39 PM PDT by Gritty (This war against Islamism is being lost because it cannot even be acknowledged- Mark Steyn)
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To: Kip Russell

“President Barack Obama accused opponents of gun control of fighting to allow “dangerous people” to own guns”

Quick, someone do a count of laws from the 20,000 on the books that limits persons with a ‘disability’ to own a firearm. This idiot should simply try to enforce the laws already there, but that would illuminate his incompetence.


55 posted on 09/22/2013 5:59:38 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks servo1969.

Head Demagogue of the Demagogic Party ping.


56 posted on 09/22/2013 6:17:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: servo1969

I honestly can say with all my heart that this man and his wife are the most divisive figures to have been in the white house for many decades.

They have no class, he cannot get it into his small time head that he is supposed to represent all not just his champagne socialist and communist pals.

To think the media still gives him a pass and still we have millions of brain dead voters out there.


57 posted on 09/23/2013 8:52:26 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: publius911

the same shrinks which said homosexuality was not a mental disorder and tells people that it is alright to be different, to act differently and it’s OK to act out to voice their emotions.

It’s the shrinks which are dangerous followed by bozo and his champagne socialist communist pals who are putting us in danger with their reckless debt, social agenda and foreign policy


58 posted on 09/23/2013 8:55:45 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Kip Russell

“President Barack Obama accused opponents of gun control of fighting to allow “dangerous people” to own guns!”

Actually, Herr Obozo, we don’t want liberals like you to own guns. Liberals like you have zero control and have shot innocent Americans for a long time.

In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States .
In 1963 a radical left wing communist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.
In 1984 James Huberty a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986 Patrick Sherril a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
In 1990 James Pough a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991 George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Lubys cafeteria.
In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
In 1999 Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
In 2003 Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech .
In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a Colorado movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
On 9/16/2013, another mentally ill liberal, Aaron Alexis, killed 12 innocents at the Navy Yard in Washington DC.

One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.

Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats having guns.

No NRA members, No Tea Party members, or No Republican conservatives are/were involved.

SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.


59 posted on 09/23/2013 8:58:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When insane/feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
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To: servo1969

Herr Obozo, the CDC study you had conducted to get rid of guns in the hands of good citizens proves that good citizens are safer with guns.

“Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence,” released in June 2013

Here are some key findings from the CDC report, “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence,” released in June:

1. Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

2. Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
“The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:
“Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.”

5. Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:
“There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).”

6. Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
“More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. … According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.”

7. The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
“Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.”

Why No One Has Heard This?

Given the CDC’s prior track record on guns, you may be surprised by the extent with which the new research refutes some of the anti-gun movement’s deepest convictions.
What are opponents of the Second Amendment doing about the new data? Perhaps predictably, they’re ignoring it.

President Obama, Michael Bloomberg and the Brady Campaign remain silent. Most suspicious of all, the various media outlets that so eagerly anticipated the CDC research are looking the other way as well. One must wonder how media coverage of the CDC report may have differed, had the research more closely fit an anti-gun narrative.

Even worse, the few mainstream journalists who did report the CDC’s findings chose to cherry-pick from the data. Most, like NBC News, reported exclusively on the finding that gun suicides are up. Largely lost in that discussion is the fact that the overall rate of suicide—regardless of whether a gun is involved or not—is also up.


60 posted on 09/23/2013 9:02:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When insane/feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
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