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A higher wage will force chains to replace humans with robots
The Kansas City Star ^ | September 19, 2013 | James Sherk

Posted on 09/21/2013 12:16:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Medieval doctors bled their patients with leeches. Far from improving their condition, it left them worse off. Raising the wages of fast-food workers to $15 an hour would produce similar results for those the proposal is intended to help.

In America, minimum-wage workers are better paid than the average worker in Mexico. Why? It’s not because U.S. employers are more generous than their Mexican counterparts. Nor do Americans somehow deserve better pay.

American minimum-wage earners make more because they produce more. Better education and greater capital investment make American workers more productive, raising their earnings.

Competition forces businesses to pay workers according to their productivity. If companies pay less, their employees will jump ship to competitors. And if they pay workers more than they produce, they go out of business.

For better or worse, fast-food jobs are relatively low-productivity positions, typically filled by inexperienced workers. Most fast-food customers want a quick, inexpensive meal. They will not regularly pay premium prices for a burger and fries.

Doubling McDonalds’ wages would raise their total costs by 25 percent — well above profit margins. But raising prices would drive customers away.

If Congress mandated fast-food restaurants to pay $15 an hour, they would have to change operations to deliver the kind of productivity to justify those higher costs. That would mean replacing current workers with machines and hiring fewer, more skilled workers to maintain them.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: automation; minimumwage; retail; robots; workforce
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To: snoringbear

“Pabst is still on the market? I thought it went out of business years ago. When I was a kid I liked their jazzy commercial of an Indian dancing to the tune of “from the land of sky blue waters”, something like that. Anyway, I’m guessing the PC Police nailed that commercial a long time ago.”

Hamms was the beer from the land of sky blue waters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o83xxWCel8g


41 posted on 09/22/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: dragnet2

Here’s some situations to illustrate:

You’ve got a young woman, made a poor choice and got pregnant at 17. Wasn’t able to finish high school, but did get a GED. She works at a fast-food joint and has to pay for child care because mom and dad want nothing to do with her. When she comes home, she has to take care of the kid and has no time or money to go back to school to get trained for a better-paying skill.

You’ve got a 20-year old male. Did drugs in high school, got poor grades, realized too late that drugs were bad news. Due to his bad grades, he can’t get into college. Not only that, the drugs blew out his ability to concentrate.

You’ve got a 19-year-old male. He comes from the inner-city and has been surrounded by crime all his life. He wants to get ahead, but because of something he did in his early teens that got him a criminal record, no one wants to hire him.

Do you see?

No....government jobs are NOT the solution. We don’t need MORE government...we need less. Any conservative worth his/her salt knows that instinctively. Even so...what does one do with people like these? The young woman would never survive with a minimum wage in the $3.50/4.00 per hour range . The other two wouldn’t be hired by most business owners.

Is there a solution....because the only things I can come up with are indentured servitude in exchange for having one’s basic necessities provided for, or starvation and death.

Am I missing something?


42 posted on 09/22/2013 10:25:17 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The smart chains are already on this. The threats from the government are quite sufficient to inspire them.


43 posted on 09/22/2013 10:25:25 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: snarkybob

“Hamms was the beer from the land of sky blue waters.”

Ohh, well, I was around five ~ ten years old about that time. So, what can I say. Did that Indian in the Pabst commercial sing anything. What was the Hamms commercial about? Help the old guy out :)


44 posted on 09/22/2013 10:26:12 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

“Ohh, well, I was around five ~ ten years old about that time. So, what can I say. Did that Indian in the Pabst commercial sing anything. What was the Hamms commercial about? Help the old guy out :)”

Lol that’s about as much as I know. I grew up in Texas and we didn’t get Hamms beer down here. I just remembered the cartoon Hamms bear and the song from a TV show I once saw about classic TV commercials.

They do still make PBR in fact I had a few last night.


45 posted on 09/22/2013 10:39:08 AM PDT by snarkybob
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To: dragnet2
I posted my reply in #42 without seeing your second reply.

In answer to your question, it should be possible to get paid that 'basic necessities" wage you suggest.

Question is, how would one qualify? Something to consider for another day.

46 posted on 09/22/2013 2:45:13 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Intriguing how he clearly ignored the fact that the latest minimum wage increase very quickly raised the unemployment rate from ~5% to ~10%.


47 posted on 09/22/2013 2:47:18 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: pepsionice

There are already some automated fast food outlets out there, others have a kiosk to choose instead of the human cashier.


48 posted on 09/22/2013 2:49:01 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: dragnet2
The people serving me at fast food joints are the people who know nothing better to do. You sir need to grow up...there is no Santa Clause.....you drop out or refuse to educate yourself you pay the consequences. That my friend is the 2013s. They call it minimum wage for a reason. Liberals like you think that life has to be fair...it ain't...it never will be.....there will always be a bottom for the dregs, slackers and the unfortunate few. The only malt shop bull cheet is coming from you!!!

Go into any fast food joint and what do ya see? Adults and 40 year old illegal aliens...

Patently false: 60% of fast food workers are between the ages of 16-24 30% are 16-19 all of them knew what the job paid and chose to take it.

49 posted on 09/22/2013 4:44:08 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Doubling McDonalds’ wages would raise their total costs by 25 percent — well above profit margins. But raising prices would drive customers away.

A big mac costs 3.99, would raising the price 25% to 4.99 really drive away business?

50 posted on 09/22/2013 4:50:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

does it matter?

Should government really dictate that?

If they accepted the job at that pay, there should be no problem


51 posted on 09/22/2013 4:51:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Unfortunately we live in a welfare state so minimum wage has to keep up with the freebees, sucks but it is true.
52 posted on 09/22/2013 4:54:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

If they have no problem finding workers at that pay, then we are doing okay.


53 posted on 09/22/2013 4:57:05 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ontap
those are called entry level jobs, meant for teenagers and retirees

All day long when the teens are in school, who's serving you up your fast food slop Mr. ontap?

What about the ones open 24 hrs per day? Are 17 year olds working at 3:00 a.m.

Why are you evading the questions?

54 posted on 09/22/2013 5:12:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AdaGray

Me too.


55 posted on 09/22/2013 5:17:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ontap

Tell me Mr. ontap, on top of the 20 million fast food jobs, are the 30+ million retail jobs, which basically pay at or near minimum wage, also meant for teenagers?


56 posted on 09/22/2013 5:18:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fried chicken, french fries and a large Coke...that will be $27.20 sir...


57 posted on 09/22/2013 5:21:52 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ontap
Fast food jobs are meant for teenagers...

Do these people know this?

58 posted on 09/22/2013 5:30:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ontap

Those are called entry level jobs, meant for teenagers

Hmmmm

59 posted on 09/22/2013 5:33:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Robots don’t need health insurance. They just need a good tech.


60 posted on 09/22/2013 5:45:10 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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