[BroJoeK]

CynicalBear: "1 John 5:7 For three there are bearing testimony in heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Spirit and these three one are."

FRiend, I can only go by what I read in many sources: those words are not found in any ancient Greek text from before the 14th century.
That's what it says here (see the footnote).
Therefore, the correct translation is as I posted before:

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that testify: 8 the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement."

Again, I grant that you can read it however you wish.
I am here to request that you grant forbearance and respect to those who -- especially our Founders -- may have understood it differently.

[CynicalBear]

>>FRiend, I can only go by what I read in many sources: those words are not found in any ancient Greek text from before the 14th century.<<

In an attempt to defend your heresy I’m sure you grasp on to that which supports your position rather than thoroughly research the subject. Nothing before the 14th century you say? Well, let’s see where it shows up.

Cyprian (200-258AD) used it.
Priscillian 350 AD, a Spanish bishop quotes I John 5:7,8.
Idacius Clarus 360 AD, who opposed Priscillian quotes it.
Varimadum 380 AD.
Cassiodorus 485 AD.
Cassian 435 AD.
Victor Vita 489 AD.
Jerome 450 AD.
Fulgentius 533 AD.
Ps. Vigilius 484 AD.
Ansbert 660 AD.

Perhaps early manuscripts that included it would help you.

Old Syriac 170 AD.
Old Latin 200 AD, in North Africa and Italy.
Italic 4th and 5th century. – Italic • Monacensis 7th century.
Italic • Speculum 9th century.
Latin Vulgate 4th, 5th century.

Not before the 14th century ey? Time and time again documented proofs of your errors on multiple subjects have been produced yet you persist. It might be time you take your poorly researched views to a different and less educated forum.

[CynicalBear]

>>I am here to request that you grant forbearance and respect to those who<<

No “forbearance” will be given for proven error.

[Kevmo]

I am here to request that you grant forbearance and respect to those who... may have understood it differently.

***Well, such a thing is too much to ask from God Himself, clad in human flesh. Jesus called false teachers like you ‘sons of satan’ but you would ask FReepers for their forbearance and respect. You ask more of FReepers than God expected of Himself. You are properly labelled a God damned heretic.