Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: BroJoeK; tacticalogic; redleghunter; GarySpFc; boatbums; metmom; spirited irish; betty boop; ...
>>FRiend, I can only go by what I read in many sources: those words are not found in any ancient Greek text from before the 14th century.<<

In an attempt to defend your heresy I’m sure you grasp on to that which supports your position rather than thoroughly research the subject. Nothing before the 14th century you say? Well, let’s see where it shows up.

Cyprian (200-258AD) used it.
Priscillian 350 AD, a Spanish bishop quotes I John 5:7,8.
Idacius Clarus 360 AD, who opposed Priscillian quotes it.
Varimadum 380 AD.
Cassiodorus 485 AD.
Cassian 435 AD.
Victor Vita 489 AD.
Jerome 450 AD.
Fulgentius 533 AD.
Ps. Vigilius 484 AD.
Ansbert 660 AD.

Perhaps early manuscripts that included it would help you.

Old Syriac 170 AD.
Old Latin 200 AD, in North Africa and Italy.
Italic 4th and 5th century. – Italic • Monacensis 7th century.
Italic • Speculum 9th century.
Latin Vulgate 4th, 5th century.

Not before the 14th century ey? Time and time again documented proofs of your errors on multiple subjects have been produced yet you persist. It might be time you take your poorly researched views to a different and less educated forum.

2,856 posted on 01/05/2014 6:58:23 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2841 | View Replies ]


To: CynicalBear
It might be time you take your poorly researched views to a different and less educated forum.

Maybe the rest of us should just step back and watch while you and your congregation restore the Constitution. You can do that by yourselves, right?

2,861 posted on 01/05/2014 8:42:18 AM PST by tacticalogic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2856 | View Replies ]

To: CynicalBear
CynicalBear: "Not before the 14th century ey?
Time and time again documented proofs of your errors on multiple subjects have been produced yet you persist.
It might be time you take your poorly researched views to a different and less educated forum."

Rubbish.
My statement is 100% true, and your "documented proofs" prove it.

The reason most New Testament translations do not include the words you've quoted is because no Greek manuscripts before the 14th century contain them.
Indeed, when they finally do begin turning up in Greek manuscripts, it is as translations from Latin.

So, it should give you pause, CynicalBear, to realize that the only specifically Trinitarian language in the entire New Testament is disputed at best, and rejected by most biblical scholars.

That's why I am here to ask your forbearance and respect for Christians who see it much as our Founders did.

2,907 posted on 01/09/2014 5:01:31 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2856 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson