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Poll: Republican voters have embraced libertarian values
United Liberty ^ | 9/12/13 | Jason Pye

Posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by shego

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To: ansel12

With libertopians we will not have to worry, once its legal all problems dissolve. Abolish age of consent and instantly no more worries about child drug use, or child sex, or child prostitution because its all good!

Open borders are going to be awesome, cross that line and you are an American and you can vote and sit on juries and sign up for all the stuff.

Libertarianism cannot work, society cannot function under that philosophy. And since they don’t and will never have a majority they will have to choose who to hook up with conservatives or leftists. They will more naturally choose the leftists.

When it does not function they will look for scapegoats: Christians and conservatives will be the natural ones. How dare you deny your kids their right to drugs and sex, you shall be punished. People like you are causing all the problems in Libertopia!

Don’t be surprised. They are ALREADY allied with the left.

States are legalizing pot (they want all drugs of course), we have non-citizens going to sit on juries to judge and punish Americans. They are pushing for gay marriage and the end of marriage (same thing, really), they want open borders and amnesty.

Libertarians have chosen social issues over economic ones.

They are not allies of conservatives, they are our enemies.


201 posted on 09/19/2013 10:37:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: jpsb

When you get it done, I bet it will be the best one ever. 14 years of intense labor into it already!

Do you think I’m a Libertarian?


202 posted on 09/19/2013 10:38:20 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: noprogs

What a joke.


203 posted on 09/19/2013 10:38:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Gene Eric
But the govt made law permitting what you’re saying it normally wouldn’t permit.

That didn't make sense, and I never said that, I am fighting the politics of pushing government in that direction, on this thread, by opposing the libertarian position.

Why did you ignore my correction of your mistake?

The govt has to make decisions, laws and rules regarding homosexuality, for the military, for federal employment, for immigration, for many things.

204 posted on 09/19/2013 10:39:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Gene Eric

Our form of government requires a moral people, nothing keeps the people moral like a pubic hanging every now and then. A public hanging is sure to fill the churches on the following Sunday.


205 posted on 09/19/2013 10:39:57 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: noprogs
"Do you think I’m a Libertarian?

No but I have been fooled before.

206 posted on 09/19/2013 10:41:18 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: noprogs

How about Liberdopians drop all the social issues crap?


207 posted on 09/19/2013 10:41:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ansel12

>> Most libertarians period.

Don’t agree at all. The libertarians I know are quite conservative and damn serious about their liberty — God fearing 2nd Amendment folks that care deeply for their children, and the unborn. Salt of the Earth. You wouldn’t want to piss in their shoes.


208 posted on 09/19/2013 10:44:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: noprogs
Sorry for all the yelling.

Have I even called you a libertarian although you are fighting tooth and nail for libertarianism?

209 posted on 09/19/2013 10:44:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

You keep on attacking me about a party that I don’t belong to and have basically no influence over.


210 posted on 09/19/2013 10:46:15 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Gene Eric
The libertarians I know

It is amazing how people always bring up the people they know personally as the fact of something in the nation as a whole.

211 posted on 09/19/2013 10:46:22 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

It’s the magnitude of the govt that facilitates the immorality you’re speaking to.

We disagree on the definitive meaning of libertarianism. But do we agree on the importance of significantly smaller govt?


212 posted on 09/19/2013 10:48:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: noprogs

For a guy who doesn’t want to discuss the libertarian party or defend them, you sure chewed up a lot of this thread with many argumentative posts doing just that.


213 posted on 09/19/2013 10:49:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

So you have no personal experience to back up your claims?


214 posted on 09/19/2013 10:49:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
But do we agree on the importance of significantly smaller govt?

Apparently not. I have said it here, I'd cut the federal government by 97% and liberdopians will still call me a statist.

215 posted on 09/19/2013 10:49:52 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ansel12

Good night, ansel12.


216 posted on 09/19/2013 10:50:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Why do you keep ignoring my point?

“The govt has to make decisions, laws and rules regarding homosexuality, for the military, for federal employment, for immigration, for many things.”

It always has.


217 posted on 09/19/2013 10:50:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: GeronL

Indeed you have.


218 posted on 09/19/2013 10:52:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: GeronL

I was worried about you not being here. I’m sure the commie Democrats are glad to see your attempt at consensus building between people who support shrinking the government.

/s


219 posted on 09/19/2013 10:57:36 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Gene Eric
So you have no personal experience to back up your claims?

LOL, about libertarians and social liberalism? Yeah, many threads here at FR., personal experiences that you can read yourself, not just me saying 'all the (X) that I know, are a certain way, so there!'

That is a lame argument that we see occasionally on different topics.

220 posted on 09/19/2013 10:59:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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