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To: Nachum
Does anyone else think that there has been a coverup concerning the REAL story about Okla City?

I'm still suspicious about why the search for John Doe #2 was so abruptly dropped when there were a number of things that pointed to his actual existence.

7 posted on 09/16/2013 7:03:53 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Muzzie killing muzzie what's the downside and who am I to stop them ?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Jayna Davis was a broadcast journalist for KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City at the time of the Oklahoma City Bombing. Her TV stories about the mysteriously cancelled FBI alert for "Middle-Eastern-looking" suspects wanted in connection with the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City bombing generated confidential phone tips about a group of local Iraqis, including one who seemed to match an FBI profile sketch of John Doe No. 2.

Source: Wiki

13 posted on 09/16/2013 7:06:44 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The investigator who filed this case thinks that the second person in the truck was an FBI informant, and this was known to the FBI and was the reason they didn’t want his involvement known.

Personally, I think it was a Muslim they knew to be tied into a terrorist group; possibly an informant, but more likely somebody they were watching - who got away from them. Clinton would certainly not have wanted the Muslim connection to be made public, especially since denying it gave him such a good opportunity to go after “right wing extremists.”

It’s very obvious that there was a Muslim connection. Both McVeigh and his co-conspirator spent time in the Philippines with people connected with the same Muslim group that was preparing to blow up the Pope on his visit and also had planned “Operation Bojinka,” a plot to blow up multiple passenger planes that was sort of a precursor to 9/11. And the John Doe #2 whose sketch was released and who was seen and spoken to by several witnesses was most certainly an Arab and possibly the one later known as the 20th hijacker.


17 posted on 09/16/2013 7:12:57 AM PDT by livius
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Does anyone else think that there has been a coverup concerning the REAL story about Okla City?


I KNOW I watched early news coverage right after the event when the news guy at scene interviewed a 5-7 y.o. boy who said real clearly that it was “Boom........Boom”. Maybe a half second pause between the two words.

Never saw it repeated on the tube.....and I SEARCHED.


20 posted on 09/16/2013 7:21:19 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Because of the missing video I may speak candidly knowing that no evidence exists to refute my point.

A middle eastern (John Doe #2) assisted and perhaps coerced Timmy to blow up the building. JD2 obviously killed Lassie because Lassie would not have permitted this.


36 posted on 09/16/2013 8:26:59 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Both Richard Minitier and Peter Lance---excellent researchers whom I trust---took the report of a third bomber (and Islamic type) seriously. Although they both reject Jayna Davis's evidence, they did think it serious enough to fully examine and not blow her off.

I still am skeptical that Nichols new enough to make the bomb, and his presence in Manila about the same time as Khalid Sheikh Mohammad is still highly suspicious.

54 posted on 09/16/2013 9:15:32 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Are you kidding?

These people taking the feds to court are totally credible...The Feds in their own words admit the video exists. You can’t believe a single word government says...About anything.


55 posted on 09/16/2013 9:23:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Have you ever seen anyone executed as quickly as Tim McVey? and not a peek about cruel and unusual punishment from the left?

Keep in mind that the left is NOT hypocritical. They are liars and doing exactly what they believe in. No errors no omissions no goof ups just only what they have planned to do all of the time.

56 posted on 09/16/2013 9:24:53 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Look into the bomb damage tests done at Eglin ABF on a test structure build similar to the Murrah Building.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/multibla.html

Conclusions at the end of the article:

“Mike Smith, a civil engineer in Cartersville, Georgia commissioned to
review the Eglin Blast Effects Study, states:

The results of the Blast Effect Test One on the Eglin Test Structure
present strong evidence that a single Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil
device of approximately 4800 lbs. placed inside a truck could not have
caused the damage to the Murrah federal Building experienced on April
19, 1995. Even assuming that the building had structural deficiencies
and that the ANFO device was constructed with racing fuel, the
air-coupled blast produced from this 4800 lb. device would not have
damaged the columns and beams of the Murrah Building enough to produce
a catastrophic failure.

Robert Frias, president of Frias Engineering of Arlington, Texas,
after examining the EBES, concluded: “The Murrah Building would
still be standing and the upper floors would be intact had the truck
loaded with explosives been the only culprit.” Moreover, Frias, a
practicing engineer for over 40 years and a registered engineer in
Texas, New Mexico, and Louisiana, stated: “Explosives had to have
been placed near, or on, the structural columns inside the building to
cause the collapse that occurred to the Murrah Building.”

Likewise, Alvin Norberg, a licensed professional engineer in Auburn,
California with over 50 years of engineering experience on over 5,000
construction projects, writes that evidence from the ETS data
“verifies that the severe structural damage to the Murrah
Building was not caused by a truck bomb outside the building,”
and that “the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building was the
result of ‘mechanically coupled devices’ (bombs) placed
locally within the structure adjacent to the critical columns.”

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of
engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his
evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ...
further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the
Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.”


60 posted on 09/16/2013 9:42:40 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

There is a great book by a female reporter called the third man, klinton cover up just like flight 800.


67 posted on 09/16/2013 10:20:11 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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