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1 posted on 09/10/2013 8:34:29 AM PDT by xzins
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the seal, which also contains a heart and anchor.

This is a purge of Christianity from the culture...as if we don't and shouldn't exist.

2 posted on 09/10/2013 8:35:15 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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I think it would be easier to remove the atheists from the state.


3 posted on 09/10/2013 8:35:30 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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Why don’t they just incorporate a new town, based on their superior relativistic moral-ism on principles of atheism, and then populate with their own kind?

Then, after establishment, see what they do when religious newcomers move in and want to remove the Atheism seal.


4 posted on 09/10/2013 8:37:36 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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So here’s another case in which we are supposed to be liberal, and force yet another city to remove a religious symbol because some liberal is offended.

Nobody is hurt by this symbol. It’s simply a matter of liberals being offended. If liberals take offense at something, then court cases are filed and the liberals get their way.

If conservatives are offended, they are told by liberals to grow up/get over it/turn the channel, etc. Only liberals are allowed to be offended and do something legally about their being offended, in today’s politically correct world.


7 posted on 09/10/2013 8:38:26 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Maybe those atheists should be told to be “tolerant” and to “celebrate diversity.”


8 posted on 09/10/2013 8:38:45 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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I’ll wager this will indeed be removed. Sad.


9 posted on 09/10/2013 8:38:54 AM PDT by Artcore
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Let’s remove the atheists instead.

Many ancient cultures recognized the inherent evil of atheism, and proscribed death for those so inclined.


10 posted on 09/10/2013 8:38:58 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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Atheists.
People that because they have a hole in their lives look around and see how they can screw other people over.........


11 posted on 09/10/2013 8:40:56 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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A-holes.


13 posted on 09/10/2013 8:42:59 AM PDT by albie (re)
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The City Seal:


14 posted on 09/10/2013 8:43:22 AM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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Since the letter “T” is also in the shape of a cross, I’ll wait for them to start calling themselves “aheiss”.


16 posted on 09/10/2013 8:46:41 AM PDT by expat_panama
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Hey!!!!

There was no Cross on the seal during the “billions and billions” of years previous to 1882.

So the last 131 years is just making up for lost time - fairness.


17 posted on 09/10/2013 8:47:40 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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Is their action a form of Religious persecution?

BTW, we all take a pledge to be “ - - - one Nation, under God - - - .”


18 posted on 09/10/2013 8:48:50 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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My first thought was...Yeah that ain’t going to happen, but I’ve said that so many times before and was wrong.

I have become so pessimistic in the last five years, and I’m starting to get very comfortable with it, I’m ashamed to say.


19 posted on 09/10/2013 8:50:15 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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This and the death of America are done deals.


25 posted on 09/10/2013 9:00:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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I was just wondering, of course, if the town is an abortion provider, has a high divorce rate, or other things that the Lord who died on the cross hates. If so, remove the cross.


28 posted on 09/10/2013 9:05:29 AM PDT by huldah1776
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What next? St. Augustine will be forced to change its name to Port Alinsky.


30 posted on 09/10/2013 9:08:29 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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Having an atheist lecture you on religious tolerance is like a woman asking her homosexual guy friend for dating advice.
34 posted on 09/10/2013 9:18:48 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check highlights every single word.)
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Did you ever notice that atheists never attack Islam or muslims?


35 posted on 09/10/2013 9:19:04 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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Noting that this material has been posted in related threads, Christians need to wise up and get a grip on the idea that they are partly to blame for successful atheist attacks on our religious freedoms.

More specifically, as a consequence of generations of parents not making sure that their children are being taught the Constitution and its history, particularly the Founding States' division of federal and state government powers, FDR's anti-religious expression activist justices got away with bluffing that it is unconstitutional for the states to address religious issues.

But the truth of the matter is that activist justices probably couldn't have picked a worse Founder to quote to justify their PC interpretation of the establishment clause than Thomas Jefferson and his "wall of separation." This is because Jefferson had actually acknowledged that the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment in part to reserve government power to address religious issues uniquely to the states, regardless that the States had also made the 1st Amendment in part to clarify that Congress was prohibited from making laws to regulate religion altogether.

"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed; …" --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.

The way that activist justices easily pulled the carpet from under the Constitution-ignorant states to politically rob them of their power to address religious issues, the same power which allows states to authorize creationism being taught in public schools for example, is the following. Justices argued that the 14th Amendment (14A) applied everything in the Bill of Rights, including the 1st Amendment's prohibition on Congress to make laws which regulate religon, to the states. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Cantwell v. Connecticut.

"The First Amendment declares that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The Fourteenth Amendment has rendered the legislatures of the states as incompetent as Congress to enact such laws. The constitutional inhibition of legislation on the subject of religion has a double aspect." --Mr. Justice Roberts, Cantwell v. State of Connecticut, 1940.

The problem is that outcome-driven justices blatantly ignored that John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, had officially clarified that the 14A took away no state rights.

"The adoption of the proposed amendment will take from the States no rights (emphasis added) that belong to the States." --John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of first column)

"No right (emphasis added) reserved by the Constitution to the States should be impaired…" --John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See top half of 1st column)

"Do gentlemen say that by so legislating we would strike down the rights of the State? God forbid. I believe our dual system of government essential to our national existance." --John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe (See bottom half of third column)

So based on Jefferson's clarification of 10th Amendment-protected state power to address religious issues, and also Bingam's clarifications in general that the 14A did not take away such powers, the states still have the power to address religion imo, including putting crosses on city seals, regardless of Christian parents who aren't making sure that their children are being taught constitutonal law and likewise misguided atheists.

What a mess! :^(

38 posted on 09/10/2013 10:28:11 AM PDT by Amendment10
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