Posted on 09/07/2013 12:37:43 PM PDT by driftdiver
The USMC Commandant should never be an Airwing man with no combat record prior to the rank of General. That would make as much sense as putting a Grunt in charge of a jet engine maintenance shop.
The wing is respected, and has picked up rifles on many occasions, but the career wing officers, shouldn’t dominate the ground side.
A lot of outrage over soldiers relieving themselves on dirt. No outrage over Americans murdered in Benghazi.
Our men are ever warned not to face mecca when they piss. If the enemy can specify your behaviors as you piss, you really should pack it up and go home.
(( ping ))
Read the story at the link. The “undue command influence” here is at least as disgraceful as in the Haditha case. I know a Marine sniper who served with these guys. They are good Marines. The only thing they should be punished for is being foolish enough to let somebody record them on video.
Their real crime was not sprinkling the bodies with bacon bits after taking a good long piss on them.
Hell my cousin has a picture of him possing with his foot on a dead Iragi from the first gulf war like the old elephant hunters pictures from the past.
Obama’s (supposed/presumed) grandfather could not accept Christianity he thought because forgiveness is weak. All he could value was violence; they think it is strength.
somebody needs to make koran-flavored urinal cakes
Let’s see if I’ve got this right. Clement was being charged with not supervising his guys well enough because video of them pissing on corpses went viral on youtube. In 2012 Gen. Amos, the head of the USMC, met one-on-one with Waidhauser, the guy who was the “convening authority” (judge) for the case, and told him to crush these guys. Since then, Waidhauser has been promoted to be senior military advisor to SecDef Hagel.
Not long ago, Clement got sick of the crap and corruption against him and his defense attorney got a judge to allow discovery on whether these 2 high-up, close-to-Obama guys were rigging the court-martial. That discovery would compel the production of emails and open-court testimony involving these 2 guys. That evidence was to be brought forth next Wednesday.
Rather than allow the evidence to be seen, as to whether this has been a taxpayer-funded witch trial orchestrated by the political/military high-ups, they withdrew the charges.
Does that sum it up accurately?
Totally agree, it was not smart to let it be recorded on video but a butt chewing was all that was needed.
The unlawful command influence seems to increasing greatly since the advent of our new PC military and that’s a far greater threat than this incident.
Thanks for the ping, Lancey.
So if they’re facing away from mecca when they piss, they’d be showing their ass toward the ‘place that should be nuked’ - right?
An insurgency cannot effectively exist without the support of the people. An outside force cannot gain support of the people (removing it from the insurgents) without first demonstrating they are able to protect them - by effectively targeting and destroying the enemy.
The people are well aware of our cut and run tactics. They will only support us when:
#1 it is somehow beneficial to them ($$$ but you are only renting allies; not buying)
or
#2 we demonstrate we can remove the threat (insurgents) to the point that the threat is sufficiently removed/minimized to where it does not pose a danger after we leave. We do this by extreme violence of action and then follow on actions on the objective (hearts and minds) - and we do it in that order
Immediately prior to the elections of 2008, U.S. forces were staged at Camp Fallujah in preparation of a major offensive (Al-Fajr/Phantom Fury). Immediately following the elections, and GW's re-election, the offensive was unleashed with very non-restrictive ROE's. When we had that upper-hand, we should have continued to re-clear cities and demonstrate we had the political and tactical will.
Instead we stopped momentum and let everything drag on into 2007, by which point "analysts" had already [prematurely] declared Al-Anbar Province "lost." Jan/Feb 2007 and AQIZ was scattered and on the run, with much of the populace returning to major urban areas like Al-Fallujah and Ar-Ramadi. Worse, no one ever made the case that victory was achieved, Al-Fajr a success, and that the subsequent surge worked.
obama wants it to be a Corpse.
We won every battle, but still lost the war... Sounds like Vietnam to me. What is war anyhow, but politics by other means, attempting to impose your will on an enemy?
The US military has performed magnificently. No one can fault the loss of both Iraq and Afghanistan to our field commanders. Everyone knows that the US can bring the hammer down when it wants to. However, everyone also knows that the US political leadership lacks the resolve to swing the hammer to full effect.
I am not a fan of the current counter-insurgency doctrine. I believe in crushing the enemy and total victory. I don’t believe in winning hearts and minds. We won hearts and minds in Japan and Germany after firebombing their cities and/or nuking them into submission. That is what I believe in. Go all out or stay home. Anything short of that is the province of the special operations who can train local forces to conduct the COIN ops that Petraeus and others were so fond of. American forces should never again become targets with restrictive ROEs, committed to a fight that this nation’s political leadership does not want to or know how to win.
Thanks for your service. All the best to you.
I like the way you worded that.
Semper Fi!
Yep.
And wait'll military prosecutions for "hate crimes" against homosexuals start to take off. That's the coming nightmare.
Ubama's mission was to cut America down to size by weakening the military. For the African communist scumbag, it's "mission accomplished".
Hey Jim,I agree with you.I don’t see anything wrong with what the Marines did.Not one bit.
Interesting twist. Glad to see the truth come out about the commandant, but Clement will still have to face a board of inquiry. Thanks for the ping, Lancey.
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