Baptist Group Bars Chaplains From Same-Sex Rituals

AP via ABC ^ | September 6, 2013 | BRETT BARROUQUERE

[don-o]

The Southern Baptist Convention, which provides the largest share of active-duty military chaplains, has barred members from taking part in weddings, counseling sessions and couples retreats for same-sex couples.

The North American Mission Board, an arm of the Nashville, Tenn.-based SBC, also prohibits chaplains from participating in any services that would appear to endorse or accept same-sex

[GeronL]

Good we need more, much more, resistance to the New Fascist Order

[Fido969]

This should be interesting.

[zerosix]

Way to go SBC and blessings to NAMB (No. American Missions Board!)

[righttackle44]

Naturally, the Associate Press and ABC have it wrong. The Southern Baptist Convention does not issue edicts and commands that members churches and individual members of Southern Baptist churches must follow.

The Convention, by and through it's membership of individual churches supported by Messengers from those churches, may issue opinions and resolutions strongly encouraging or discouraging certain behaviors or courses of actions. The convention enacts these opinions and resolutions by action of the members of the SBC churches, not the other way around.

So for the media to say that the Convention is requiring this of Chaplains is just plain malarkey. But I'm pretty certain that, probably the Convention as a whole, and I certainly as an individual member of a Southern Baptist church, would discourage chaplains from participating in these ungodly activities.

[pepsionice]

I believe the military will move to terminate these particular chaplains. Course, since there’s not a whole bunch of folks lined up at the door to become new chaplains....it might be noticed after a few months.

If you go down the list of expected issues from ten years ago....when folks noted all of the problems that would come....this was in the top ten. You’d basically have to remove the majority of chaplains, or find religions that only work toward total acceptance.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

So, my question would be, are the MIL-Chaplains associated with a specific stse-side parish/congregation?

If yes, have those individual congregations communicated their desire to these men?

Just my Lutheran curiosity about the SBC goings-on.

[max americana]

Yup. Kudos for looking after our interests and it saves face for the chaplains that they’re just “following orders”. I’m kinda sure that those chaplains are holding their pukes when they have to conduct this marriage nonsense between 2 fags.

[OldNavyVet]

the New Fascist Order

From Webster ...

"fas-cism ... a system of government characterized by rigid, one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, ... belligerent nationalism, racism, ... & etc."

If the shoe fits, wear it.

[wku man]

"You’d basically have to remove the majority of chaplains, or find religions that only work toward total acceptance."

Or remove chaplains from the military entirely, which may be the end game for the Godless Obammunists.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[WKB]

Baptist ping

[GeronL]

The shoe fits very well

[BillyBoy]

>>> The Southern Baptist Convention, which provides the largest share of active-duty military chaplains, has barred members from taking part in weddings, counseling sessions and couples retreats for same-sex couples. <<

Odd, we keep hearing from Baptist freepers that the SBC is NOT like the Catholic Church because it would NEVER tell invididual pastors what they can and cannot do in THEIR ministry, and instead uses a "bottom-up" approach where the local church has the greatest atonomy to do whatever they want, with progressively weaker levels of power at higher levels, and the national board being basically just a advisory board to "help out"

[ansel12]

Maybe post 5 is more accurate than AP/ABC on this.

It looks like you have used your intelligence to reach the conclusion that the SBC runs pastors and churches like the Catholic denomination.

I’m trying to measure your credibility, so I will pay attention to the thread and see how your claim holds up.

[GeronL]

Military Chaplains aren’t in an independent local church

[Resolute Conservative]

They can do whatever they want in their ministry as long as it can be rectified in the Word.

[BillyBoy]

>> They can do whatever they want in their ministry as long as it can be rectified in the Word. <<

And who is the arbitrator of that?

[GeronL]

There is no arbitrator of who can be called a Baptist (look at the fakes like Westboro). The SBC can, though, pull it’s support for this Chaplain program

[Resolute Conservative]

In the end the local congregation. The Bible is not that hard to understand and should not be interpreted by a “chosen” few. If you are sitting in any church and the priest/pastor misinterprets or purposely changes the meaning of the Word it is your duty to call him on it or leave that church.

[zerosix]

Well yes, we Baptists do have complete autonomy with respect to individual congregations, etc. but we, the members, do get vote on various moral stances and also give many $$$$ in mission dollars to support our missionaries - that would include our Chaplains and already know that they are almost forbidden from public prayers ending in Jesus' name.

If Caesar demands officiating at homosexual "unions" (I refuse to refer to them as "gay" as they are anything but gay), I, as a Baptist, will vote to remove our sanctioning and payments to Chaplains who follow Caesar in this abomination!