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Was Mitt Romney Right About Everything? From Russia to Detroit, his fans say they’ve been vindicated
BuzzFeed ^ | 09/05/2013 | McKay Coppins

Posted on 09/05/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Waryone

He was too beltway in some ways for sure.


181 posted on 09/05/2013 5:56:39 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Waryone

Never heard about the abortion stuff at all. Sure doesn’t sound like any Mormon I ever heard of.


182 posted on 09/05/2013 5:57:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Finny

Binary is the best way to put it.. but, sadly, that is way above many people’s heads :p


183 posted on 09/05/2013 6:02:33 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Finny

By the way, I know you know this.. but I am hoping (once again, out of the many posts here from all of us..)..

The ‘Vote against’ is what put us here in the first place.. Can’t get much simpler than that...

Every time people vote ‘against’ someone, it put us all closer to the edge of the cliff. NOW, we are ALL falling over the cliff because of it :/


184 posted on 09/05/2013 6:10:07 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: citizen
It’s all conjecture now.
We can say with certainty that who we have (0bomber) is much worse.

Which is it -- conjecture, or certainty? Because maybe you can "say with certainty" that Obama is "much worse," but I say with EQUAL certainty that in a bigger picture spectrum, you are mistaken, and in the long term, we are better off with Romney losing in 2012. Just as you are mistaken in using word "we" in your certainties.

185 posted on 09/05/2013 6:16:12 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Bikkuri

Yes! Binary!!! Thank you!! (that word usually slips my mind!)


186 posted on 09/05/2013 6:18:51 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

My certainty is logically and politically correct. Yours is a rambling gobblegook.

There is an axiom that applies here: “Never argue with a fool.” Bye.


187 posted on 09/05/2013 6:29:11 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: Bikkuri
Yep. Always good to restate for clarity, because it's actually math.

What they wrongly perceive as voting against the bad guy Democrat, is in reality always only voting FOR the replacement. When the replacement is a bureaucratic, fiscal, and social statist who facilitates or pushes government involvement in every aspect from health care to environmental "responsiblity" to behaving "morally" to openly homosexual folks, that is what they voted FOR, and that is what America gets.

Because they were voting "against" the other guy. All pretend.

Arnold Scharzenegger and Meg Whitman come to mind, as well. I voted for both of them, and I was mistaken.

188 posted on 09/05/2013 6:29:44 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: citizen; Bikkuri
{^) Your supposedly "logically correct" position is founded on an emotional kneejerk assumption that "0bomber" would certainly be worse than Romney! Why, the very idea ...!!! backed by zero supporting arguments. In otherwords, gobbledegook.

My position is founded on the pure math of: You get what you vote for. "Against" is a mathematical fallacy. As Bikkuri very logically points out, failing to anticipate the true consequence of voting "against" is how we got to this point.

Logically correct certainty. Politically very incorrect. Quite shocking, indeed.

189 posted on 09/05/2013 6:40:55 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: A CA Guy

I have learned not to care much about the R, if the candidate doesn’t deserve my vote he won’t get it


190 posted on 09/05/2013 6:55:23 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: citizen; Finny
My certainty is logically and politically correct. Yours is a rambling gobblegook.

Guess it all depends on your perspective.

Because given Romney's past record of switching positions whenever it suited him and his view of the Political landscape, there are no guarantees with respect to what he would do in office.

In fact, I can speak with certainty that he would have changed his positions just like he did on his supposed Pro-Life statement at CPAC in January 2012 to his August 2012 recanting of that position. In both statements he was emphatic. In January, he state he was always Pro-Life, in August he stated his position had always been one of supporting Abortion in cases of Rape, Incest, Life and HEALTH of the mother.

So while you trust he would somehow keep his word, I can point to the FACTS that he never keeps his word but is constantly changing his policy positions.

Yours is the emotional position.

The position taken by conservatives is the logical, reasonable position:

Romney can't be trusted and probably would have been almost as bad as Zero given his past record of almost a complete Progressive record.
191 posted on 09/05/2013 6:56:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: citizen; Finny
There is an axiom that applies here: “Never argue with a fool.” Bye.

Another case of someone with a Boatload of projection.
192 posted on 09/05/2013 6:57:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Finny

Obama is better than Romney?


193 posted on 09/05/2013 7:20:26 PM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: luvbach1
There’s no way that my dislike of Romney could override my absolute loathing of the Obamanation. Some here seem to have managed that.

I agree with you, and I sucked it up and voted for Romney. But now that he lost and is done, there in no point in pretending anymore that he is anything but a terrible candidate, not particularly conservative, and an empty suit.

194 posted on 09/05/2013 9:18:45 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, just went through the myriad of Comments on this useless Thread. I’m no fan of old Mitt which obviously puts me with the majority.

There is no way he would have been any worse than Obama, which seems to be the implication here, yet people still bitch and complain about the guy who didn’t win. Unreal...

We have a Commie Wannabe tearing this Nation apart and here we are dissing the only person that would have given us any chance of preventing the demise of the Republic? What a waste of keystrokes.

What is this, an Obama support group? Good gracious, go cry in your Beer. Our Candidate sucked, but the guy who beat him is flying off the SUCK scale every minute of every day.

Romney lost the General Election, but he went through the Republican Primary process and ended up being the only opponent against the Democrat Candidate. Nobody here liked it one bit, but that’s the fact Jack.

Spare me the Romney lover replies. I’m just an Obama hater, or just another Racist if you’re a Democrat. Now, back to the Mecum Auto Auction on Velocity.


195 posted on 09/05/2013 9:44:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberal Democrats = Communists. RINO Republicans = Communist Sympathizers.)
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To: whd23
You're being deliberately obtuse in refusing to read and understand what I've been saying. <<

No offense but I've been reading your posts too...

(My advise...Go to DU and use your time and wonderful debating skills changing them to your point of view....lol...You'll have more luck!...All IMHO of course....but think about it...U could be valuable

196 posted on 09/05/2013 10:05:34 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: A CA Guy

Where were you 2007 to 2012? Romney’s problems with abortion were highlighted regularly right here as were his problems with gay marriage.

Just as every other religion has people who believe politically what they want to believe, Mormonism is no safe predictor of Mitt Romney’s political positions.


197 posted on 09/05/2013 11:51:09 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: MrShoop

How terrible Romney was as a candidate depends on the degree of voter fraud the Demonrats got away with. Some think it was enough to steal the election. I don’t think that but it would have been quite a bit closer without it, the winner-take-all electoral college votes being affected by a relatively small number of votes in key states like Ohio.


198 posted on 09/05/2013 11:57:17 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Romney was a waste of a nomination. Romney was put in place to keep conservatives from winning. He was never supposed to beat Obama. How do I know. I live in Florida. I saw how Mitt Romney went after Newt Gingrich. I waited to see that same Mitt Romney go after Obama. It never happened. In the biggest battle ground state in the country Romney never showed up. Never attacked Obama. Why? He only runs against conservatives. Liberals, democrats are his friends. He did everything he could to defeat Gingrich and Santorum. Told every lie, reached all the into his bag of rotten tricks to rip into conservatives. Now explain to me why his idea of going after Obama was to say ‘he’s a nice guy who’s just in a little over his head.’

All of you people crying “leave Mitt Alone” have the same problem. Not one of you can explain his behavior. I’ve heard everything from his handlers didn’t know what they were doing to he’s just too nice a guy to go after Obama. These are the same handlers who started during the McCain candidacy in 2008 to tear into Sarah Palin. The ones who manipulated the primaries to get Mitt the win in 2012, just didn’t know what to do. Plus Mitt was such a Mr. Nice Guy that he made up stories non stop during the campaign against Newt Gingrich in Florida. But, he didn’t even have to make up stories about Obama. All he had to do was tell the truth about what Obama has done to this country. He never quite got around to doing that.

I’m glad you’re an Obama hater. Too bad your friend Mitt doesn’t share your opinion.


199 posted on 09/06/2013 12:11:15 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney sucked, get over it.


200 posted on 09/06/2013 12:13:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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