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We all thought Libya had moved on – it has, but into lawlessness and ruin
The Independent | 09/03/2013 | Patrick Cockburn

Posted on 09/04/2013 3:53:48 AM PDT by gotribe

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/special-report-we-all-thought-libya-had-moved-on--it-has-but-into-lawlessness-and-ruin-8797041.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: illegalwar
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This is a great article about what's left of Libya after we waged an illegal war. The short answer is: not much, and the people are starving.

It's what happens when the U.S. invades a country to overthrow a dictator, starting a war without a justifiable national defense rationale. The psychopaths in Washington must be removed. They talk of "moderate" opposition in Syria and admit they don't know what our mission is there, from yesterday's hearings:

DEMPSEY: The answer to whether I support additional support for the moderate opposition is yes.

CORKER: And this authorization will support those activities in addition to responding to the weapons of mass destruction.

DEMPSEY: I don’t know how the resolution will evolve, but I support –

More Libyas on the way!

1 posted on 09/04/2013 3:53:48 AM PDT by gotribe
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To: gotribe

Springtime for Mohammed. Where’s Mel Brooks?


2 posted on 09/04/2013 3:57:31 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: gotribe

This is what happens when a petulant, narcissist boy is selected as the most powerful man in the world. A man incapable of surviving outside of scams, criminal enterprise and extortion has risen to the highest seat of power and now we see the results. May everyone that had a hand in electing him... burn in hell for their sins against GOD and man. I will pray for his soul. That is all that I can do.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 4:04:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Rocky

“...it-has-but-into-lawlessness-and-ruin...”
De-t-Riot East, This is what happens when Affirmative Action personnel firmly take hold of governmental policies.
By time Obama leaves office the MBrotherhood will have formed a solid Caliphate from Morocco through Indonesia, or should I say Detroit.


4 posted on 09/04/2013 4:09:20 AM PDT by BilLies (WHOSE YOUR DADDY, BARAKO?)
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To: gotribe

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/special-report-we-all-thought-libya-had-moved-on—it-has-but-into-lawlessness-and-ruin-8797041.html


5 posted on 09/04/2013 4:17:07 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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May everyone that had a hand in electing him... burn in hell for their sins against GOD and man.

the people who really deserve to be charbroiled are the spineless RINO scum in DC who have been either bought off or compromised and can do nothing to oppose this evil creature from hell and remove his sorry ass.

one day before its too late, Americans have to realize that the American people will have to save and restore America ourselves.

6 posted on 09/04/2013 4:22:32 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: newfreep

Libya doesn’t matter any more. Ghadaffi’s gold is in safe hands.


7 posted on 09/04/2013 4:23:32 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: gotribe
Iraq - ✔
Afghanistan - ✔
Libya - ✔
Egypt - ✔

Now on to Syria! Why quit when you're on a roll.

This Supreme Leader of the World stuff is easy-peasy - Obama

8 posted on 09/04/2013 4:29:46 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (De IRS be my massa, sho' nuff.... / Repeal the Sixteenth!)
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“It’s what happens when the U.S. invades a country to overthrow a dictator...”

That’s not what happened. The NATO bombing was inconsequential to what Kaddhafi did.

He ordered his southern mercenary army to go out and kill Libyans after the Libyan army refused his orders. These mercenary savages went to universities and murdered children. That action ignited opposition to Kaddhafi and his elites across the country. The army deserters joined with the provincial militias and took Kaddhafi out.

What would you do if obuma brought in African mercenaries and sent them to campuses to murder students?


9 posted on 09/04/2013 4:36:05 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: gotribe

The fallacy in the article is that the assumption all would be immediately well is unfounded.

The factor the author did not consider is time. The factor of time acts to smooth out the instantaneous disconcerting events and result in acceptable change.

As bert says...... History is a process, not an event


10 posted on 09/04/2013 4:37:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: agere_contra

The nuclear elements are at Oak Ridge


11 posted on 09/04/2013 4:37:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: BilLies

Listen to McCain and ask yourself would he have been any better?

We have to stop letting the GOPe pick our candidate.


12 posted on 09/04/2013 4:41:08 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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Special report: We all thought Libya had moved on – it has, but into lawlessness and ruin - Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi ( Tuesday 03 September 2013)

Like monkey with hand grenades.

13 posted on 09/04/2013 4:53:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: kingattax

We may have to do exactly that but it will be with GOD’s help or we fail.


14 posted on 09/04/2013 5:05:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Isn’t Libya France’s problem anyway? Let France fix it.


15 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:50 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: gotribe

Seriously, though, the break up of the secular Arab nations into squabbling ethno-religious rump states ruled by, and kept undeveloped by, militant jihadists-types has been Israel's strategy for the region for thirty years. This is exactly what is happened in Iraq, Lybia, Sudan, and attempted in Egypt and Syria.

16 posted on 09/04/2013 5:28:05 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: sergeantdave

Oh really? No fly zone, missiles, CIA on the ground, none of that controlled events in Libya? Puleez - USA USA USA!!!


17 posted on 09/04/2013 6:11:30 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: bert

Michelle, go back to school lunches.


18 posted on 09/04/2013 6:11:56 AM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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This one party system had better start paying attention to American citizens as this nation hates them for ignoring us. Stop listening to the “echo chamber” of the beltway and start listening to the voters. . .otherwise - primary season is coming.. . .

Hey, Marines! There is a traitor in the White Hut. CHARGE!


19 posted on 09/04/2013 7:50:09 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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I can think if Vietnam, Iran, Iraq,and Libya where the US has intervened to remove( or kill) the current leader because he is so "bad" only to have horrible results...

Vietnam with all our muddling picking leaders there lead to a disasterous war for us and killed so many good young men....

would the world be better off if the Shah stayed in power?...

how about Saddam?.....

certainly Iraq and Iran and Afghanistan for that matter are still a mess...and now Libya....

20 posted on 09/04/2013 9:23:32 AM PDT by cherry
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