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A Nation of Working-Class Dropouts
Taki's Magazine ^ | August 23, 2013 | Gavin McInnes

Posted on 09/02/2013 12:01:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Every time a liberal sees someone behaving badly they sigh and say, “They just need education,” but the solution to America’s problems is less education, not more. If we got over this myth that everyone needs infinite academia, we would have less unemployment, more manufacturing, a stronger economy, less student debt, and less school tax. The economy would be stronger and we would all be happier. Ironically, in an effort not to hurt anyone’s feelings, we developed a system where everyone has to go to college, even the stupid people, until we all feel like shit.

When everybody’s special, nobody is. Getting everyone into college means you have to dumb down the curriculum until it is nothing but meaningless drivel that has no application in the real world. Colleges aren’t going to complain when you stick them with more customers. They just take the check, lower the bar, and say, “Come on in.” But getting a gold star on your math test does not a computer programmer make....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: college; education; employment; trades
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Besides, I’ve heard worse from 8 year olds in the mall, haven’t you?

I think you just made my point.

Another thing that amuses me about people, (usually it is the left doing this), is when they take a new step of decadence and degradation and regression, they always say something like, well, this isn't 1953 anymore as though you have go back 60 years to find the norm, instead of 1 year.

You are right, this isn't 1953, or 1963, or 1973, or 1983, or 1993, or 2003, or 2010, this is a brand spanking new step backward for conservative writing, and I am getting attacked for bringing it up.

41 posted on 09/02/2013 9:12:55 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
It's a blog site being sourced here, not the London TImes. Hence the casual language. Not every opinion piece has to be written by a stuffy Ivy-Leaguer whose only experience with the working class is when they come to clean his pool or bring him his oysters on the half shell at the boat club.

I actually bookmarked the site, there were some other articles there worth checking out (i.e. "How The Love Boat Ruined My Life").

With regard to the article, I agree 100%. Higher education is not for everybody. It is not even for the majority. The world is full of plumbers, mechanics, electricians and construction workers who make six figures a year and needed no more than a basic 8th grade education.

Along these lines, I think high school is ruined for most due to the fact that we must also send bored students who shouldn't even be there. As a result, we not only dumb down the education for the others but the bored students who have no further interest in learning are disrupting the classes and needlessly consuming faculty resources that would be better directed towards helping gifted students reach their full potentials.

Once the 8th grade is completed, students not academically inclined should be able to choose a trade and spend the high school years focusing on that trade. As for girls who wish to be housewives, they can just end school right then and there and keep house for their parents until the right man comes along. Should not be a stigma attached to any of that.

For those who move on academically, they should be held to high standards and any misbehavior or other nonsense should result in being expelled. This will improve the learning experience for those who decide to pursue higher education.

42 posted on 09/02/2013 9:35:54 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Not every opinion piece has to be written by a stuffy Ivy-Leaguer whose only experience with the working class is when they come to clean his pool or bring him his oysters on the half shell at the boat club.

Look at post 41, conservatives have been writing forever,and conservative writings were/are not written by "stuffy Ivy-Leaguer"s until suddenly this year, the libertarian punks decided to 'make it real'. What is this insulting, elitist, snobbery about "the working class" as some kind of explanation for the collapse of language among conservatives who are parroting MTV, I'm the working class guy complaining about the professional writers sounding like 14 year old punks sneaking a smoke and trying to sound ghetto and street tough, instead of imparting their ideas to a thinking, conservative audience.

43 posted on 09/02/2013 10:03:14 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: nathanbedford

I have no doubt that this “education” trend in America is by design.

The reason? People that are less educated use less resources (yes the UN said this).

Also, you bring up a good point about the vocational concept of education...which I believe is a very European and an anti-American system.

In Europe a classical liberal education was reserved for the aristrocrats or the ruling class. It was reserved for those that would rule...for the princes and princesses of Europe.

In America...our sons and daughters are all princes and princesess. We do our country a great disservice by continuing the public school system.


44 posted on 09/02/2013 12:22:31 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Smokin' Joe
If you have them straining their feces for their dental work without swearing at them, that does have a certain style.

If you can do that, then great. Sometimes I can do that, too. But I think it is necessary for some people to realize that this culture war has become a street brawl, not a boxing match with the Marquis de Queensbury rules. If some guys are getting the message out using a little of the harsh language, more power to them.
45 posted on 09/02/2013 3:51:57 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ansel12

The problem is not your rejection of the use of foul language, per se, it is your rejection of the substance of the article because you saw a bad word in it. That’s where the “stick-up-the-a**” comes from. When I argue with left-winger types, especially on the internet, I’ll sprinkle in some “bad words” now and then for emphasis BECAUSE IT IS EFFECTIVE. If I were addressing a tea social, I would watch my mouth. That is the key - know your audience and know your medium. Most guys in the military are on the conservative side (or they were, anyway). You think our failing to keep the language clean diminished our beliefs?


46 posted on 09/02/2013 4:08:40 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: garandgal

Well, what can I say? You were (and are) correct. Not everyone is going to be the next Steve Jobs, so there is a need for low-skill jobs.

The problem with the US political class is that in their craven indifference towards low(er) skilled Americans, the political class are perfectly happy to crush the future earnings of the bottom 40% or so of our native-born workforce with a flood of cheap labor with even less skills from south of the border. In fact, the craven political class are perfectly happy to flood our labor markets with H1B “skilled” labor as well. What they’re not interested in doing is growing the average household income of the US lower and middle classes, which have either stagnated or gone backwards over the last 10+ years.

CATO isn’t filled with “conservatives” of any number; they’re filled with doctrinaire libertarians (NB the small ‘l’ - they’re not necessarily members of the LP) who have never done an honest day’s work in their lives. They’re a bunch of scribblers who have degrees in what are mostly worthless pursuits: economics, law, “international relations,” etc. When I look at their CV’s, I see a whole lot of blather that is intended to impress people inside the beltway, but is completely unimpressive to anyone who has to sweat to earn a paycheck. People with PhD’s in economics should be prohibited from talking about job and employment policy, because they’ve spent so long so far outside the field of actual employment in the world, that their opinions are worse than worthless.

If I had my way, I’d round up everyone with anything more than an undergraduate degree in economics (especially trade and macro-econ) and force them to mine for gold in Alaska in the middle of winter while wearing nothing more than jockey shorts, and they’d be forced to do it at the point of a bayonet. In other words, I’d be perfectly happy to see economists labor and/or die in the American version of Kolyma, and I’d use the gold they produce to help prop up the US Treasury. It wouldn’t amount to much, but it would bring home the much-needed lesson that economists need some serious accountability in their “profession.”

The entire cohort of macro/trade economists have done so much ruin to an economic system that used to be the envy of the world that there is nothing short of their lives that they could use for the compensation of the American public at this point.


47 posted on 09/02/2013 4:09:11 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: nathanbedford
If we could find a way to channel the erotic lusts of youth and capture their attention while subliminally bringing them to conservative righteousness, we will have squared circle and done the world a great service.

That's kind of what John Wayne used to do. Today, we're stuck with Matt Damon and Robert Pattinson. :)

48 posted on 09/02/2013 4:12:09 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: fr_freak
If some guys are getting the message out using a little of the harsh language, more power to them.

It has been my experience that the same people who will call you a motherf***er loudly and publicly to your face are the first ones to decry your use of profanity and pull the discussion away from the substance of your argument into the delivery thereof. The message gets lost in the ensuing wrangle over phraseology.

Beware that tactic, it is a common one.

Better yet, avoid it by keeping it clean.

49 posted on 09/02/2013 4:20:11 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
It's also not the same as knowledge. My liberal friends are quite impressed with educational degrees. Wisdom and knowledge are not important to them.

I just heard on the radio today that more and more employers are giving applicants a "collegiate" exam to see what they really know.

Why? Because they no longer trust resumes and GPAs.

50 posted on 09/02/2013 4:26:29 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: fr_freak

No, it isn’t effective, but it is getting more and more common as you and yours try to sell it to modern America.

You have been absorbed by the left’s culture and now imagine that you HAVE to cuss to express yourself.

You really do demonstrate what I was describing.


51 posted on 09/02/2013 4:42:35 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
You really do demonstrate what I was describing.

Actually, I don't, but you are definitely demonstrating what I was describing. I tell you what, when the feds are loading you into the trains to the FEMA camps, and you're watching your home burn, at least you can take solace in the fact that you didn't use the F-word.
52 posted on 09/02/2013 7:53:34 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

What an insane piece of ranting.


53 posted on 09/02/2013 7:55:49 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

lol


54 posted on 09/02/2013 8:06:24 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ansel12

Taki’s not quite a conservative. I agree with you. The language is simpleminded and needless. It doesn’t improve the article, but detracts from it.


55 posted on 09/05/2013 5:46:58 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: NVDave

Intelligence is a heritable trait, and the brutal, unrelenting truth is that there are some races and geographic cohorts which are more intelligent than others.

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


56 posted on 09/05/2013 5:48:21 PM PDT by angcat
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To: LongWayHome

The Germans are by their nature anti-populist. Nor do they believe in protecting the jobs of screw-polishers and inefficient industry the way Pat the Journalist advocated. Besides, where outside the Third World have populist movements succeeded?


57 posted on 10/12/2013 4:54:34 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: NVDave

As a well known philosopher once said, ‘The World Needs Ditchdiggers, too.’


58 posted on 10/12/2013 5:00:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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