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1 posted on 09/01/2013 11:53:17 AM PDT by narses
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Am I to assume that if a group of regular customers who came in wearing Confederate uniforms and carrying the Confederate flag caused the establishment to lose business from its liberal marxist customers, the courts would award said Confederates significant bucks for being ‘devistated and humiliated’?

I wish some people would conduct such a test case to illustrate the hypocracy and lunacy of the left.

34 posted on 09/01/2013 12:42:06 PM PDT by Paulie
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That’s gay


36 posted on 09/01/2013 12:56:58 PM PDT by bigbob
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Not your fault for this ineresting post result but.
Paraphraing the bar owner’s lawyer The writing is on the wall the lawyer said but we did it because we wanted Oregonians to know...From the looks of where these postings are comming from they still don’t Would be interested in what someone from that area has to say ...No mention of appeal


37 posted on 09/01/2013 1:00:11 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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When it comes to the sociopolitical sacred cows (causes) of liberals like, there is no more corrupt legal regime in place in this entire country than what has been demonstrated time and again in Oregon, and Portland in particular. Be it abortion, taxes, pornography, homosexuality, ad nauseam.


38 posted on 09/01/2013 1:03:51 PM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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Too many lawyers are destroying America. They’re the enablers of everything that is wrong with society.

That doesn’t mean all lawyers are bad — just too many of them are dirtbags.


41 posted on 09/01/2013 1:18:39 PM PDT by boycott
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Alas, Brave New Babylon

(link to the Free Republic thread)


42 posted on 09/01/2013 1:19:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I don’t see any indication in the article that the bar owner banned transgender groups on the basis of his religious beliefs or other rights protected by the Constitution. And if constitutionally protected rights were not violated by this Oregon law then this is not a 14th Amendment issue imo.

If the citizens of Oregon don’t like this law then it’s up to them to work with their local and state lawmakers to make such laws more citizen-friendly.

And citizens in other states who don’t want such situations to happen in their states better get off of their couches and work with their local and state government prepresentatives to make state laws which compliment their constitutionally protected rights.


43 posted on 09/01/2013 1:26:20 PM PDT by Amendment10
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“The T-Girls said they were devastated and humiliated.”

You ever notice that its always a case of devastation and humiliation. etc. with lefty groups? Not just gay groups, but pretty much every left wing group that is unhappy about something. It’s never “we don’t like this” or “we are unhappy about that”, but outraged, humiliated, put upon in manner most cruel, etc. Frankly, the histrionics involved often irritate me more than whatever the underlying issue happens to be in these cases.


46 posted on 09/01/2013 1:52:29 PM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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People pollution is bad for business. They wanted to destroy his business.

He needs to spend a hundred grand and let contracts on all the wackos and their lawyers.


49 posted on 09/01/2013 1:56:12 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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I am officially OLD or I used to live in an alternate reality.

I can remember when many establishments [stores, restaurants, etc., for those in Rio Linda] frequently had a sign:

“We have the right to refuse service to anyone.”

Many restaurants also had:



Those were of an era before PC Liberalism took over our lives.
54 posted on 09/01/2013 2:03:44 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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Although the First Amendment does not explicitly mention freedom of association, the Supreme Court ruled, in National Association for the Advancement of Colored People v. Alabama (1958),[208] that this freedom was protected by the Amendment and that privacy of membership was an essential part of this freedom.[209] The U.S. Supreme Could decided in Roberts v. United States Jaycees (1984) that “implicit in the right to engage in activities protected by the First Amendment” is “a corresponding right to associate with others in pursuit of a wide variety of political, social, economic, educational, religious, and cultural ends.”[210] In Roberts the Court held that associations may not exclude people for reasons unrelated to the group’s expression, such as gender.[211]

However, in Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Group of Boston (1995),[212] the Court ruled that a group may exclude people from membership if their presence would affect the group’s ability to advocate a particular point of view.[213] Likewise, in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale (2000),[214] the Court ruled that a New Jersey law, which forced the Boy Scouts of America to admit an openly gay member, to be an unconstitutional abridgment of the Boy Scouts’ right to free association.[215] -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


61 posted on 09/01/2013 4:27:31 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Our nation endures and our government... has not perished from the earth."-Sarah Palin 7/1/13)
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For what it’s worth, check out the street view on Google Maps for P Club Bar & Grill (it’s just a neighborhood sports bar; prior businesses had P in the name and it probably made sense to the new owners) and then read the comments here @ Yelp

http://www.yelp.com/biz/p-club-bar-and-grill-portland

There’s a reason for all the derogatory nicknames for Portland; unfortunately good businesses have to suffer as a result of it being true.

Just a sample comment at Yelp from a year ago:

“P-Club is a perfectly good working person’s bar in a working person’s neighborhood. Service is good, food is simple bar fare, good and cheap. I don’t drink so not sure what alcohol costs there. Atmosphere is what it is... Although the place is fully equipped with tons of windscreens with variety, pool tables, shuffleboard, pinball, lottery machines and a distant dance floor with 80’s & 90’s music on tap. Seems as if there is a huge stink about discrimination against the Rose City T-Girls Group (a Yahoo based group of mostly closeted crossdressers) that frequented the P-Club every Friday night. The owner claimed the group hurt Friday night business and were asked not to come back. Completely understandable because by the end of a typical Friday night the group usually became a loud, obnoxious circus that dominated the pool table area. The closeted crossdresser leader of the group aka “Cassandra” was the main offender of these behaviors, along with clogging the girl’s bathroom toilet with a stinking dump on many a nights. That always seemed to go over real well with the regular patrons in a “shared” girl’s bathroom... For the most part cheap draft beer was consumed in copious amounts by the group along with a few plates of nachos and ribs. Not a big money maker for the bar. As far as the the P-Club being T-Girl friendly? From my many, many Friday night P-Club experiences as an active and “out” crossdresser, I would say NO. Not because of the staff & management for they were they very T-Girl friendly but because its just a very unfitting bar in an unfitting neighborhood to be holding a T-Girl venue. This whole discrimination stink against the P-Club is complete bunk. If the Rose City T-Girls Group is so profitable for a bar or club then what establishment is “blessed” with the group’s Friday night business now?”


62 posted on 09/01/2013 4:28:06 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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I’m surprised that anti-gay folks haven’t gotten the idea to start frequenting gay bars and doing things that make the gay patrons uncomfortable, in the hopes of being thrown out and suing.


65 posted on 09/01/2013 7:59:18 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Penner denied last year that he is biased but said other customers complained that the T-Girls left the stall doors open and seats up in the women’s restrooms and business had dropped.

Now I'm not dumb but I can't understand
How she talks like a woman and walks like a man.

66 posted on 09/01/2013 8:01:32 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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How were these freaks harmed to the tune of $400,000??

Sexual perversion is the mark of the beast, don’t support it and they will make you starve


68 posted on 09/03/2013 12:04:30 AM PDT by GeronL
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The bar owner should have said he is Muhammidan and he is just following the Quran. That would have put the bureaucrats in a position of picking which special rights group wins.


70 posted on 09/03/2013 12:44:05 AM PDT by SUSSA
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