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The Presidential eligibility of Ted Cruz
8/29/13 | Lakeshark

Posted on 08/29/2013 6:32:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark

The Presidential Eligibility of Ted Cruz

Got your attention yet? I have a modest proposal for ALL FReepers concerning this issue, but let me explain why there is a proposal at all.

The last couple of weeks our venerable and sainted media (peace be unto them) has decided to, after all these years of silence, bring up the issue of Presidential eligibility. The strange appearance of article after article would make you think they were about to expose the birth certificate of messiah Bambi from a Kenyan hospital and show proof of a renouncement of his citizenship while in Indonesia .

Alas, no it’s not about the eligibility of our current fearless reader, instead it’s about the eligibility of Senator Ted Cruz. For those of us hiding under rocks, Ted Cruz just happens to be one of the finest conservatives to hold office. He’s smart, engaging, persuasive, handles MSM traitors journolists like pathetic kindergartners begging for more candy, presents conservatism naturally as a compelling counter to totalitarian leftismliberalism, plus he really wants to move the country to the right normal place of excellence it once was.

Right now, Ted Cruz is trying to rally the GOP to try to defund Bambicare. He is lobbying for it in the Senate, the House, and more important is rallying the GOP voters to sign a petition urging all GOP members of Congress to join the effort to defund this monstrosity. He is in the breach, fighting the good fight, he is the spearhead of this effort. With this and other efforts he appears to have risen to the top of the leadership of conservatives in America. He has the ear and confidence of most conservatives at this point.

So, does anyone hear believe the MSM is interested in simply following the Constitution when they bring up the question of his eligibility? If you do, read no further. If you don’t believe the MSM wants us to be fighting amongst ourselves at this point, read no further.

Based on what I’ve said above: Here is my proposal:

As conservatives, as FReepers, let’s no longer do what the MSM/Soros/democrat complex wants us to do on this issue, namely fight over the eligibility of Ted Cruz and divide the conservative movement at this crucial time. For those of you who believe he is not eligible, understand these two facts:
1. Senator Cruz has not declared for a presidential run at this point, so there is NO issue. Kindly stop making it an issue, particularly right now. Stop. Cease. Desist. It is not important, he’s not running yet. Kindly don't post articles from the MSM or comment on said articles if they are only about the eligibility of Ted Cruz.
2.You are doing the bidding of the MSM/Soros/democrat complex when you do so. They’ve made it clear they want to divide us on this issue, don’t take the bait. Also, see 1. above. Kindly realize that when the Wa ComPost runs 12 articles in 2 days about this issue, it’s not to help conservatives unite.

For those of us who think he is eligible. Remember number 1. above: He is not yet running, there are more important things to do right now. If you see someone on the opposing side, I suggest you link them to this proposal and ask them if they want to continue to divide conservatives during this crucial time, ask them if they really want to carry the water of the media/Soros/democrat complex.

So here again to all: Let’s call a truce on this issue. Not to surrender your beliefs, no one has to do that yet, he is not running. Rather, let’s unite behind the conservative principles that Cruz is pointing us all to, particularly let’s unite to ask the GOP to defund Bambicare. It’s important to do so rather than to quibble over what is at this time, a nonexistent issue ginned up by our domestic opposition.

Thank you for your support.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: consertavives; cruz; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; piedpiper; strawman; texas; unite; vanity
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To: humblegunner

This one couldn't be drunk pretty after a whole case......not even beer goggles would work here.........

201 posted on 08/30/2013 8:08:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: Lakeshark

Um, yeah. If I have to choose between Cruz and Obama as usurpers, I’m going over the cliff with Cruz.

I want a SCOTUS ruling, but I won’t sacrifice conservatism to get it. I wanted a SCOTUS ruling on the individual mandate also. Look where that got me.


202 posted on 08/30/2013 8:10:55 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: ballplayer

:-)


203 posted on 08/30/2013 8:13:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Lakeshark

Cruz has the same credentials to be prez as...well, the current prez has. If it is good enough for their liberal then it is good enough for our conservative.


204 posted on 08/30/2013 8:15:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; CodeToad

I hope he runs, I hope he wins. I hope he’s as effective as Reagan and Thatcher.


205 posted on 08/30/2013 8:20:18 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: Lakeshark

Well, that’s why God gave them the Laz.


206 posted on 08/30/2013 8:22:39 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad; Lakeshark

Plus, there’s a point past “drunk pretty” which is “drunk willing”


207 posted on 08/30/2013 8:29:06 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: noinfringers2
However, contrary to your statement we were not the same as/identical to a ‘natural born’ citizen.

By what reasoning? And by reasoning, I mean law or court decision - because the only ones I know of would consider you a natural born citizen.

The only thing preventing you from running for President is that you presumably have too much integrity to be a politician. ;)

208 posted on 08/30/2013 8:30:58 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: Lakeshark

One thing I can’t wait for is Prez Cruz to rollback all the idiot E.O.s poshitus has committed on us. ‘Rollback’ is my nick for Cruz. He can’t wait. Neither can I.


209 posted on 08/30/2013 8:35:47 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: CodeToad

Very good take as to today’s standoff. However,it does nothing to uphold the Founding Fathers intentions about assurance for loyalty to the Nation and the Constitution.


210 posted on 08/30/2013 8:58:44 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: kevkrom

I set my citizenship by my own reasoning after some reading of discussion at the Constitutional Convention and the Minor vs Happersset ruling. This came about years after a second grade question by the teacher as to what we kids wanted to be when we grew up. She listed a whole bunch of occupations from doctors to gardeners. When I didn’t give a reply she asked me why I had not made a choice. I told her my choice was not listed and she asked what that would be. I flat out told her President of the USA. As I recall she added that to the listing with a smile. Neither I nor my brother who was killed on Okinawa ever gave much thought about this and I didn’t until Obama became the poster boy for the arguments.


211 posted on 08/30/2013 9:27:06 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Lakeshark; C. Edmund Wright; exit82

Bump to your fine post!


212 posted on 08/30/2013 9:43:38 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ted Cruz is NOT a “natural born citizen” and he knows it!

If Ted Cruz runs for POTUS, than he becomes another Traitor to Our Constitution and “We the People”.

How is that Conservative?

Why can’t We just follow our Constitution!

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States says:

“No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;”


213 posted on 08/30/2013 9:50:25 AM PDT by tomdavidd (“The Constitution is the guide which I never will abandon.” –George Washington)
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To: tomdavidd

Ted Cruz is a traitor?

zot.


214 posted on 08/30/2013 9:52:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: noinfringers2

“it does nothing to uphold the Founding Fathers intentions about assurance for loyalty to the Nation and the Constitution.”

Born here is no assurance of loyalty as every single liberal demonstrates.


215 posted on 08/30/2013 9:53:12 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: tomdavidd

Watch it. Ted Cruz is not a traitor to the Constitution.


216 posted on 08/30/2013 9:53:59 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: tomdavidd

Dude, read the article above about cooling it until he declares he’s running, then try again........


217 posted on 08/30/2013 9:58:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: CodeToad

I agree as demonstrated in the days of Joe McCarthy but the Founders could only build a Nation on the most plausible basis. They were pushing for loyalty as much as ascertained at the time. Future generations had to deal with loyalty in the framework provided by the Constitution.


218 posted on 08/30/2013 11:14:10 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: P-Marlowe

I apologize for my harsh and rude language, it was not excusable.

I let my ill temper get away with me.

(But you’re still wrong!)

;-)


219 posted on 08/30/2013 12:04:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Lakeshark

Lake, thank you for your kind words.

I have already signed Sen. Cruz’s petition, as well as called my Congressman and Senators and urged them to defund Obamacare.

The whole purpose of your thread was to find common ground, and it is a noble one.

Just because someone has legitimate concerns about a person’s eligibility, does not mean that person is a hater of the one in question.

It is way too early in the game for the lines to become that rigid-it feels like a loyalty test on steroids-and I think you were trying to not go in that direction, and that is commendable.

Getting Freepers to agree on something is akin to herding cats. But that is what makes this place so great. Mention a topic and you will find all kinds
of input coming in, and a wealth of knowledge shared.

You are correct about the main thing-Sen. Cruz is our point man on defunding Obamacare, which is the number one domestic issue right now.

And it all may become moot if Zippy decides to ignite the Middle East powder keg over the weekend.

Again, thank you for your kindness.


220 posted on 08/30/2013 12:23:00 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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