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Live Thread: Syria Crisis Continuous Updates
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/28/2013 7:06:18 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: MestaMachine

Is Patterson a Bodine?

Just asking.


361 posted on 08/29/2013 12:21:01 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: caww

I’ll buy that for a dollar re: Russia/facility.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/28/uk-syria-crisis-russia-tartous-idUKBRE97R0JA20130828


362 posted on 08/29/2013 12:29:45 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: maggief

Sky News Newsdesk @SkyNewsBreak 3m

Downing Street says legal advice on taking military action in #Syria will be published this morning


363 posted on 08/29/2013 12:40:08 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

REUTERS

Breaking News:

Russia to send anti-submarine ship and missile cruiser to Mediterranean: Interfax


364 posted on 08/29/2013 12:52:01 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

*POOF*

Reuters breaking headline is gone.


365 posted on 08/29/2013 1:07:41 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Agence France-Presse @AFP 2m

#BREAKING Russia sending anti-submarine ship, missile cruiser to the Mediterranean: report


366 posted on 08/29/2013 1:11:09 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief; caww; melancholy; All

Syria
• The Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, has said Iran will apply all efforts to prevent military action against the Tehran-backed regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Iranian state TV is reporting. His remarks reportedly came during a telephone conversation between Rouhani and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin. Rouhani was quoted as saying “military action will have a big amount of costs for the region” and “it is necessary to apply all efforts to prevent it.” According to the report, he said both Iran and Russia would work to prevent any military action against Syria and called such action an “open violation” of international laws. While condemning chemical weapons, Rouhani was quoted as saying “early judgment can be dangerous, before clarification” of allegations that Syria used such weapons.

• The US president, Barack Obama, said in an interview with PBS television, that he has not taken a final decision on air strikes but Syria needed to understand there were “international consequences” for its actions. He said the White House had concluded that Syria did carry out last week’s chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburbs, adding:

If in fact we make a choice to have repercussions for the use of chemical weapons, then the Assad regime will have received a pretty strong signal that in fact it had better not do it again.

• Despite Obama’s comments, the intelligence linking President Assad or his inner circle to an alleged chemical weapons attack that killed at least 100 people is no “slam dunk,” with questions remaining about who actually controls some of Syria’s chemical weapons stores and doubts about whether Assad himself ordered the strike, US intelligence officials have told AP. Multiple US officials used the phrase “not a slam dunk” to describe the intelligence picture — a reference to then-CIA Director George Tenet’s insistence in 2002 that US intelligence showing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was a “slam dunk” — intelligence that turned out to be wrong.

• Allied air strikes against the Syrian government over the alleged use of chemical weapons could be delayed until next week in the face of strong opposition in the UK parliament to British involvement in immediate military action. The prime minister, David Cameron, conceded that MPs would be given a second vote to approve military action to defuse a parliamentary revolt, ahead of a Commons debate on Syria today. Whitehall sources indicated that the US, which had planned to launch the strikes by the weekend, is prepared to revive a back-up plan to delay the strikes until Tuesday when Barack Obama is due to set out for the G20 summit in Russia.

• Syria is warning of “grave consequences” if US-led military action goes ahead to punish President Assad for allegedly using chemical weapons. Bashar al-Jaafari, Syria’s ambassador to the UN, told reporters outside the security council in New York on Wednesday that the effect could be felt across the Middle East. “We should keep in mind what happened in Iraq and Libya”, the envoy said, adding that the toppling of Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi by Nato-backed rebels in 2011 had “spread terrorists all over Africa”.

• The Syrian air force is considering using kamikaze pilots against attacks by western forces, a Syrian army officer operating air defences near Damascus has claimed in an interview with the Guardian. The officer said 13 pilots had signed a pledge this week saying they would form “a crew of suicide martyrs to foil the US warplanes”.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/aug/29/barack-obama-action-syria-video

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/strike-assad-regime-british

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/syria-west-military-action

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/syrian-army-kamikaze-against-west-assad


367 posted on 08/29/2013 2:53:28 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: Squantos

Post bump and thank you for the ping, Squantos.


368 posted on 08/29/2013 2:54:15 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: MestaMachine
From July 2013---Syria: Mapping the conflict


369 posted on 08/29/2013 3:07:42 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: caww; melancholy; penelopesire; maggief; All

I had to add this because given what WE know, and the fact that this bird calls himself an expert, this might be one of the dumbest guestions I have seen lately. But compared to this economics professor from Massachusetts, what do I know?
What I know is professors love to hear themselves talk...and talk.

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10629

“On the other hand, accusing the rebels of doing so also raises some questions about plausibility, because if the rebels are capable of carrying out such a large-scale attack, and if they have the means to do so and they are murderous enough to unleash them on among civilians, then why would they choose to do it against rebel-held territory, and why would they not use it against the regime forces? Why would they not try to turn the tide of the war? That’s also being a question that’s being raised.”
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Really? He doesn’t understand this?


370 posted on 08/29/2013 3:38:39 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: All

Breaking News: U.S postpones attack on Syria in wake of political pressure to wait for U.N. investigation to be complete. The crisis is over! Art in Idaho had it right along with one other astute poster on this thread. President Obama’s bluff worked. “Another October missile Crisis Moment.” Peace!


371 posted on 08/29/2013 3:38:48 AM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prolouge")
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To: PatriotGirl827

bookmark


372 posted on 08/29/2013 4:10:05 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: mulder1
Not so fast:

AP sources: Intelligence on weapons no 'slam dunk'

373 posted on 08/29/2013 4:19:40 AM PDT by quimby
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To: quimby; mulder1

• Despite Obama’s comments, the intelligence linking President Assad or his inner circle to an alleged chemical weapons attack that killed at least 100 people is no “slam dunk,” with questions remaining about who actually controls some of Syria’s chemical weapons stores and doubts about whether Assad himself ordered the strike, US intelligence officials have told AP. Multiple US officials used the phrase “not a slam dunk” to describe the intelligence picture — a reference to then-CIA Director George Tenet’s insistence in 2002 that US intelligence showing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was a “slam dunk” — intelligence that turned out to be wrong.

• Allied air strikes against the Syrian government over the alleged use of chemical weapons could be delayed until next week in the face of strong opposition in the UK parliament to British involvement in immediate military action. The prime minister, David Cameron, conceded that MPs would be given a second vote to approve military action to defuse a parliamentary revolt, ahead of a Commons debate on Syria today. Whitehall sources indicated that the US, which had planned to launch the strikes by the weekend, is prepared to revive a back-up plan to delay the strikes until Tuesday when Barack Obama is due to set out for the G20 summit in Russia.


374 posted on 08/29/2013 4:27:42 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: mulder1

While obahaha does a hula dance in front of the cameras, you can be sure something nefarious is going on behind the curtains. obama is an illusionist. Beware smiling faces.

Iraq is becoming a full fledged civil war. Afghanistan is decaying, the Kurds are raising up an army to take on al qaeda, Turkey wants its cut, and Syria is a problem far from solved. Nothing is “over”.

This is a war between shia and sunni. Move out of the way. To the winner goes the spoils, then nuke the ‘winner’, keep the spoils. Problem solved.


375 posted on 08/29/2013 4:44:06 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine; caww; melancholy; penelopesire; thouworm

RT:

Thursday, August 29

11:29 GMT: Syrian President Bashar Assad said that his country would defend itself against any attack. “The threats of direct aggression against Syria will only increase our commitment to our deep-rooted principles and the independent will of our people. Syria will defend itself in the face of any aggression,” Syrian state TV quoted Assad as telling a delegation of Yemeni politicians.

09:27 GMT: French President François Hollande said that everything should be done to seek a political solution to the Syrian crisis, Reuters reported.

09:03 GMT: The UN team investigating chemical weapons attacks in Syria is set to leave the country early Saturday and report immediately to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, he said.

08:15 GMT: Russia is to send an anti-submarine ship and a missile cruiser to the eastern Mediterranean in the next few days, Interfax news agency cited military sources as saying. The move is a planned rotation of vessels and there are no plans to boost the Russian Navy’s presence in the area, the source said. Russia’s Defense Ministry has not confirmed the move, however.

06:20 GMT: Calls for military intervention in Syria are an “undisguised challenge” to Charter of the United Nations, the Russian Foreign Ministry indicated.

05:50 GMT: Syrian government forces have retreated from the airport zone in Damascus amid reports that the families of Syrian military elite are evacuating to Lebanon.

REUTERS:

Britain’s intelligence committee says evidence shows that it is “highly likely” the Syrian government was behind last week’s chemical attack.

An aide of German Chancellor Angela Merkel says Merkel and French President Francois Hollande agree there must be a reaction the Syrian gas attack, and they hope for a prompt U.N. report.

Pope and Jordan’s king agree dialogue is “only option” for Syria crisis

US strike on Syria would bring Israel’s destruction, says Iranian commander

“The threats of direct aggression against Syria will only increase our commitment to our deep-rooted principles and the independent will of our people. Syria will defend itself in the face of any aggression.” - Assad, speaking to a delegation of Yemeni politicians, according to Syrian state television.

Syrian state TV has quoted Assad as saying “Syria will defend itself in the face of any aggression”.

France says political solution the ultimate goal for Syria

Britain sends six RAF jets to Cyprus in defensive role

U.N. chemical weapons team to leave Syria by Saturday morning - Ban

AFP:

Putin, Rowhani agree chemical weapon use ‘impermissible’

Britain sends six Typhoon jets to Cyprus base

INTERFAX:

UN INSPECTIONS SHOULD BE CONDUCTED AT THREE OTHER SITES IN SYRIA, APART FROM DAMASCUS SUBURBS – RUSS http://fb.me/QDxTYUkt


376 posted on 08/29/2013 4:51:21 AM PDT by maggief
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To: quimby; All

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/29/world/middleeast/us-facing-test-on-data-to-back-action-on-syria.html

American officials said Wednesday there was no “smoking gun” that directly links President Bashar al-Assad to the attack, and they tried to lower expectations about the public intelligence presentation. They said it will not contain specific electronic intercepts of communications between Syrian commanders or detailed reporting from spies and sources on the ground.

#

Shocking. /sarc.

REUTERS:

Britain says it would be legally entitled to take military action against Syria even if the U.N. Security Council blocked such action.


377 posted on 08/29/2013 4:54:53 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

REUTERS:

Britain’s intelligence committee says a chemical attack did take place in Syria last week, and that there is “some” intelligence to suggest “regime culpability”.

INTERFAX:

Moscow insists on continuation of UN inspections in Syria http://bit.ly/15mmz10 #Russia #interfax #news

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/aug/29/syria-national-newspapers?CMP=twt_gu

Most newspapers warn Cameron not to launch an attack on Syria

But The Times and The Sun appear to favour an airstrike


378 posted on 08/29/2013 5:00:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/19755

Obama’s Blundering Incompetence

By Michael Reagan · August 29, 2013


379 posted on 08/29/2013 5:08:04 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

The report from the UK’s Joint Intelligence Committee

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/235094/Jp_115_JD_PM_Syria_Reported_Chemical_Weapon_Use_with_annex.pdf


380 posted on 08/29/2013 5:10:54 AM PDT by maggief
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