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With the US media focused on Barry "Drama Queen" 0bama and his dithering, it seems only foreign news outlets, like Al Arabiya, are interested in enquiring what motives Assad may have had for a chemical weapons attack, if indeed it was Assad's forces?

Interesting analysis from an "inside" perspective: the kind you won't find in the US media.

1 posted on 08/27/2013 9:15:31 AM PDT by mojito
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A well reasoned article as opposed to the World Nut Daily garbage.


2 posted on 08/27/2013 9:19:16 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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"edecins sans Frontieres (MSF), which is above partisanship"

Give me 2 minutes to disprove that one.

3 posted on 08/27/2013 9:21:39 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (No bombs for Al Qaeda in Syria!)
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Apparently the UN isn’t there to find out who, they’re there to find out if they were used and we can blame someone by consensus.


4 posted on 08/27/2013 9:21:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Peole are acting like using chemical weapons are AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE worse than;
Rape, dismemberment, horrible torture, applying the above to your enemy’s family, etc. etc. etc.

All of which have been going on in Syria for decades.

I think putting chemicals in a special class is a hangover from the WWI horrors.


5 posted on 08/27/2013 9:22:18 AM PDT by DManA
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"The expert emphasised that it is difficult to imagine that rebel forces would have the resources to have undertaken a fraudulent staging of the dead and the wounded."

Maybe it wasn't 'fraudulent staging'. Maybe it was the real thing. Several hundred dead Mexicans say that the Obama administration isn't above expending a few innocents to 'stage' a basis for their bolshevik policies.

6 posted on 08/27/2013 9:23:50 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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So if it is reasonable to assume that this attack was carried out by an artillery unit of the Syrian Army, the puzzling question is “why?”

"Achmed, get more ammunition, we must continue shelling." "Yes, sir but we are out of the HE rounds, I had to use those blue-marked ones for the last volley." "YOU WHAT??? NO ONE is supposed to fire the blue rounds without orders from the top. Oh, Achmed, what have you done?"

8 posted on 08/27/2013 9:27:38 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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From the article: “So if it is reasonable to assume that this attack was carried out by an artillery unit of the Syrian Army, the puzzling question is “why?””

Surely any assumption would have at it’s base a reasonable theory as to why and that assumption would also take into account who would it favor to have the US believe that the Syrian Army did this. Now they may be playing the old double bluff but I think they Syrian government has more to lose than to gain from the use of such weapons.

Because of The Idiot-in-Chief the rebels have more to gain from using them and convincing the world that the government did. Either way Obama paved the way for this to happen - he should be thrown in jail for stupidity and incompetence beyond belief!


10 posted on 08/27/2013 9:32:38 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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Who? Al Qaeda

Why? Al Qaeda knows 0bama is on their side and will bomb Assad for them.

12 posted on 08/27/2013 9:39:48 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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Towards the end:

an Islamic council in the rebel head portion of Aleppo outlawed the croissant as anti-Islamic. This is because it was allegedly created by Viennese bakers to celebrate the failure of the first Ottoman siege of Vienna some five or so centuries ago.

FIVE HUNDRED YEARS go by and they do this petty thing. Tell me that Muslims aren't stuck in the dark ages.

13 posted on 08/27/2013 9:40:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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I did a ton of research and reading all night last night (couldnt sleep after job searching) on the use of Sarin. Hopefully I wont get a visit from the Feds!

Sarin is not easily stored. It breaks down pretty quickly so it often stored in a form that requires mixing to be “reactivated” for weapons use. It either has to be mixed by someone trained or it is stored in a binary, or split, configuration. In binary form, the chemical agent will be in seperate compartments inside a round or warhead that is mixed after be fired. We believe that Syria has stockpiles of both Sarin and Mustard.

Sarin being a nerve agent, it causes convulsions, vomiting, spasms, and pinpoint pupils. Some of the victims do show these symptoms. None of the symptoms match mustard gas. Sarin, deployed in an artillery shell and detonated, will sink to the lowest parts of the room. Clothing can remain toxic for up to thirty minutes. Any first responders will HAVE to have protection. Further infection can be caused by both skin contact and breathing in the vapors. Sarin doesnt really spread far and wont remain active for more than an hour or two at the most.

If this town was shelled by both conventenial and chemical weapons, it could explain why people stayed in their homes rather than got the heck out. Being in their homes or closed spaces will represent the greatest risk of infection.

It is still way too early to tell who launched this attack. It is absolutely possible that the FSA has defectors that can use this stuff. It is also possible that the FSA had access to prepared, binary rounds.

I’m not an expert, just highly interested and none of the news media is digging in and providing much info on Sarin. I tried to find pictures of chemical attacks and Iraq / Iran came up alot. Lots of dead in the streets like they were trying to get away. Bodies were too decomposed to tell anything so the pics werent much help. Didnt help me sleep either.


16 posted on 08/27/2013 9:59:56 AM PDT by drunknsage
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So, the Arab world gets fed up with the rebels, start turning against them, and the next thing you know, Assad, who would not want to injure that increasing rejection of the rebels, decides to launch a chemical attack against those rebels, thereby killing the momentum against the rebels, the exact opposite of what was in his best interests.

Seems odd.


18 posted on 08/27/2013 10:10:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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At no point during any interview I have seen with Assad (a handful maybe) have I ever thought I was hearing from the guy who was actually in charge.


23 posted on 08/27/2013 10:30:32 AM PDT by dmz
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The first observation I made: It would be stupid for Assad to have done this attack.

The second observation: if the weapons are so controlled, under control rather than just sitting on a shelf for anyone to arbitrarily use, this wasn't some rogue attack, why would Assad use them on civilian targets rather than hitting a rebel stronghold at known location?

Final observation, REGARDLESS,what the hell does this have to do with US interests?

30 posted on 08/27/2013 11:19:18 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Interesting article. Thanks for posting. One other theory would be that the Syrian military had chemical weapons as a just in case, though they planned to use them only as an absolute last resort, because the repercussions would likely be fatal to the regime.

They obviously didn’t want anyone to know that they were keeping them at all.

If you were the rebels and you had access to the internet, you would know that your best chance of becoming the new power in Syria would be to somehow get the government to use the weapons.

So you try to force a small unit that you know has the weapons into a no-win situation where they will use them, but you fail repeatedly.

Then you go for plan B:

The next time a Syrian army officer offers to defect (and there have been plenty of army defections) , you say: stay right where you are, get access to the chemical weapons, fire off a few rounds into a civilian area, and THEN defect. By doing so you will bring the same coalition that toppled Ghaddafi to topple Assad.

Now imagine you are the Syrian regime reacting to this scenario. The situation on the ground is a mess, the defector (or defectors) has deliberately muddled your understanding of what actually happened there, and so you think a rogue commander or two used your ‘final resort’ weapon because his unit was being overrun, even though you had given them explicit orders not to.

You don’t want the UN to find out that you were even keeping the last resort weapons, and you definitely don’t want them to discover what the rogue unit has done (because you know how the UN/NATO will react) so you close off the area until you can figure out what happened. A few days later, you still don’t really know what happened but your continued blockage of the inspectors is becoming the equivalent of a guilty plea, so you let them in.


31 posted on 08/27/2013 11:39:26 AM PDT by edwinland
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Maybe it was staged...maybe they weren’t dead at all...I keep finding little snippets claiming these were actors.
I know you can photoshop...I know you can do all sorts of things but google up gas attack faked and look for yourselves.

I keep seeing pretty peacefull folks who don’t look like they have been in an agony of sarin.

I don’t know...but if this is a ploy by der fascist marxist to bolster his sagging numbers, I have a mighty skeptical eye.....

These “rebels” are al queda infiltrated and led in some cases...why are we piously claiming they couldn’t possibly lie?

Me no know, kemosabe....


35 posted on 08/27/2013 12:08:56 PM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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One possible explanation is that it was a bombardment of conventional munitions from government forces which hit a rebel store of chemical weapons / chemicals. (Therefore it is feasible that neither side intended to release the chemicals at that moment.)

But it is not too far fetched to say that rebels would do it to their ‘own’ people if it suited their purpose. I remember speaking to a peacekeeper soldier returning from Bosnia one of whose tasks was to plot artillery fire coming in to a besieged town. It was obvious to him that when the besiegers let up for a couple of days then the ‘besieged’ would lob some stuff into their people to keep the heat on.


36 posted on 08/27/2013 2:59:59 PM PDT by Mr Radical
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