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It's about time Charles and Bret got it right. Dual Citizens can't become president and kudos for Charles Krauthammer for bringing up the allegiance factor pertaining to the British Crown. You can't be president and have allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. What is severely irritating is the Washington Posts Charles Lane sitting in the middle who adamantly states it's silly that we can't have a dual Citizen president like its no big deal. His attitude is a reflection of the media in general and Obama supporters.
1 posted on 08/22/2013 11:52:50 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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What about Obama’s Indonesian Citizenship?


2 posted on 08/22/2013 11:56:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Here is a clickable link to the webpage in the OP. Go have a look:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/bret-baier-reports-obama-cruz-not-eligible.html#idc-container


3 posted on 08/22/2013 11:58:01 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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When Schwartzenegger was mentioned for president, the left brought up the issue of his foreign birth.

Don’t expect them to even acknowledge this.


4 posted on 08/22/2013 12:00:51 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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A judge in New Jersey disagreed with Charles and Bret:
Purpura & Moran v. Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo


7 posted on 08/22/2013 12:07:09 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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Does anyone remember that we fought a war over this issue. Because we refused to accept the UK’s claims of our citizens still being subjects of theirs. The Royal Navy would stop and search our merchant ships, and even our naval vessels (The Chesapeake), round up American citizens who they still considered subjects of the crown, and force them to serve in the Royal Navy. Congress passed and Pres. Madison signed a declaration of war in June 1812 because of our outrage over impressment. The ignorance of our history is astounding. Or maybe Charles and Bret are hardcore members of the Federalist Party, which died a quick death over this issue.
10 posted on 08/22/2013 12:18:23 PM PDT by gusty
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Ping


14 posted on 08/22/2013 12:25:19 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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There are a number of well-documented cases of US Citizens who were dual citizens of other countries and had to give up their US Citizenship when they moved there and ran for public office. Just common sense. Like a client conflict on Mad Men


15 posted on 08/22/2013 12:26:01 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Yay! Another birther thread! Woohoo! Maybe this’ll be the one that finally settles the matter once and for all.


22 posted on 08/22/2013 12:32:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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Why are they ALL OF A SUDDEN “getting” it? (Cruz?)


24 posted on 08/22/2013 12:33:59 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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Fox. Shepbitch Smith. Bill Ohreally. Whorealdo.
I used to watch Fox. No longer. Don’t miss it.


28 posted on 08/22/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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Obama’s two election victories have mooted the original constitutional interpretation of any president being a “natural born” citizen. We are stuck with the present definition for any citizen with one foreign parent-baby born on US soil or baby born abroad and brought back here by the citizen parent for the term of some years[10?].

Obama’s fake birth certificate lists Hawaii and Cruz was back in the US as a child. Cruz is filing paperwork to be delisted as a potential Canadian. I’d vote for Cruz if he ran.


29 posted on 08/22/2013 12:40:06 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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I do very much love what Ted Cruz is doing in his first term. I believe him to be a true American Patriot, but he is not a natural born citizen as I perceive the premise.

My belief is that one has to be born in this country of two citizen parents. It really is simple, and anyone that bothers to understand the philosophical premise laid down by the Founders has to agree.


30 posted on 08/22/2013 12:40:24 PM PDT by nesnah
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His attitude is a reflection of the media in general and Obama supporters.

Yup, I suspect Krauthammer and his DC beltway attitude sees Cruz as too conservative...the reason to out him.

33 posted on 08/22/2013 12:43:06 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Dual Citizens can't become president and kudos for Charles Krauthammer for bringing up the allegiance factor pertaining to the British Crown. You can't be president and have allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. What is severely irritating is the Washington Posts Charles Lane sitting in the middle who adamantly states it's silly that we can't have a dual Citizen president like its no big deal. His attitude is a reflection of the media in general and Obama supporters.

The correct proposition is that a person who is born subject to the sovereignty of some head of state other than the United States is not a Natural Born Citizen and is not eligible to hold the office of President.

The disqualifying condition would usually occur because the person would be born outside the United States and thus subject to the sovereignty of the head of state of the place of birth.

Dual Citizenship per se is largely irrelevant.

Are you asserting that Uraguqay could disqualify a candidate they didn't like for President of the US by passing legislation granting such person citizenship? Of course not.

Have you considered the fact that a large part of the population of the US, is, unknown to the individual members, citizen of another country? Many Euro countries have automatic citizenship to grandchildren of departed citizens--if you have a grand parent; or grand father in some cases; you are automatically a citizen, know it or not.

More likely to be a problem? An immigrant to the US from a country which does not automatically grant citizenship to granchildren; comes to US; marries a US Citizen and applies for citizenship; they have a child before citizenship is granted thus leaving the child a dual citizen (of the US by place of birth under the 14th Amendment; of the country of origin because the parent was a citizen only of that country at the date of birth).

The child grows up and has his own son; that son is also a citizen of both countries under normal principles of international law in most cases.

Silly to focus primarily on the dual citizen question--the issue; the only issue; is sovereignty of the place of birth.

35 posted on 08/22/2013 12:47:34 PM PDT by David
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What is amazing is that you’re irritated that Charles Lane, a leftist dupe,is just doing what he does normally and naturally. The media in general and Zero’s supporters all do what comes naturally. I think they all need to be seen as the enemy of everything that has made our nation a great constitutional republic and treated accordingly.


42 posted on 08/22/2013 1:12:10 PM PDT by Postman (Flies get too litle credit. Boehner & McConnell get much too much.)
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More importantly, do you really want a man who was born in Canada, and has a law degree from Harvard University, but was too stupid to know that he was a citizen of Canada, running our country?

Or is he just a liar? because he has also stated that his mother once told him that he had Canadian citizenship. So he didn't just find that out from reading the Dallas News.


50 posted on 08/22/2013 1:52:43 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story’s
“Commentary on the Constitution”,
which was written within a generation
of its adoption, implies that even a
natural-born citizen who assumes foreign
citizenship at any time thereby forfeits
his eligibility ever to assume the office
of President.


71 posted on 08/22/2013 3:11:05 PM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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Bret Baier lost all credibility on this issue when he stated that the NATURALIZED Puerto Ricans are eligible to be President.


85 posted on 08/22/2013 7:55:55 PM PDT by bluecat6
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If dual citizens couldn’t be president then any country could make anybody ineligible just by granting them citizenship.


121 posted on 08/24/2013 7:53:49 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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I watched the video. It seems clear to me that the commenter was speaking from a political point of view, and not a Constitutional one.


122 posted on 08/24/2013 10:15:00 AM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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