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Senator Cruz may have to wait eight months to stop being Canadian
reuters.com ^ | 8 20 13 | David Ljunggren

Posted on 08/20/2013 3:22:58 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

OTTAWA - U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, who says he recently discovered he is likely a Canadian, must win security clearance from Canada's spy agency, fill out a four-page form and then wait up to eight months to sever his ties to America's northern neighbor.

Cruz, a Texas Republican who has fueled speculation that he may run for president in 2016, was born in Canada, which automatically makes him a citizen. On Monday he offered to renounce that citizenship. ...

People giving up Canadian citizenship must prove they are or will become a citizen of another country, do not live in Canada and are not a security threat. They must also explain in writing why they do not want to be a Canadian anymore.

A nonrefundable C$100 ($96) fee is payable in advance.

"It's very, very uncommon ... . I've been practicing 26 years and I don't think I've ever seen anybody renounce it," said Guidy Mamann, an immigration lawyer with Toronto law firm Mamann, Sandaluk & Kingwell.

(Excerpt) Read more at preview.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
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To: justlurking
Arthur was born in Vermont.

Census records seem to prove this and fwiw. His father,William Arthur was born in British Northern Ireland. He was an immigrant to Canada. He settled in Dunham, Quebec which is near to Fairfield, Vermont. He married a Fairfield lady and the census tells us much.

The daughter was born in Canada and the baptismal register for her proves that. The census dutifully records her birth in Canada. Chester Arthur is twice recorded on two successive census as being born in Fairfield, Vermont. A certificate of citizenship shows William sworn as such in 1843, when Chester is 14 years old.

Even then when Arthur took the place of the murdered president, there was a flurry of questions regarding eligibility. A lawyer called Hinman (Democrat)wrote a book titled "A British Subject is in the White House".

The Republican Party turned down the offer to stand for president by Chester Arthur. Some say it was because of the eligibility clause. Almost unheard of to refuse an standing president. Their chosen man lost to the Democrats.

Bit of a ramble and please excuse me for it.

61 posted on 08/20/2013 6:39:51 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: RegulatorCountry

“That should frighten you, if you really believe a President has that power at his sole discretion.”

Jimmy Carter was a horrible president.


62 posted on 08/20/2013 7:17:18 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

Not as horrible as he could have been, by your estimation. He could have given away the United States piecemeal all by himself, if he actually did possess the power you ascribe to that Office.

So could Barack Obama.


63 posted on 08/20/2013 7:20:39 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BarnacleCenturion
...must win security clearance from Canada's spy agency, fill out a four-page form and then wait up to eight months to sever his ties to America's northern neighbor.

Canada's or any countries rules other than the US's are irrelevant. Canada could have a rule that says that people can't renounce their citizenship. Doesn't make it relevant.

64 posted on 08/20/2013 7:30:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Theoria; RegulatorCountry
Your post #36.

Five examples which you have given could be described as "multiculture". This is often not an integration into the dominant culture, but standing apart and trying to alter it. Much of my own native country, England has been destroyed and changed by it. English people live in fear of the politically correct police. Canada has seen some major changes in some large cities. Almost like a third world enclave in some sections. Only it's vast space seems to lull Canadians into a false sense of security.

Multiculture -the disintegration of nations. The Framers of the Constitution must be turning in their graves.

Can people not see? Just damn!

65 posted on 08/20/2013 7:49:20 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: JCBreckenridge

She would have been a subject of the King, not the Queen. Liz didn’t become Queen until 1952, after her father died.


66 posted on 08/20/2013 8:29:17 PM PDT by oldweesie
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To: RegulatorCountry

Still not seeing your point here. Are you basing your argument on the fact that Carter wasn’t a piece of crap?


67 posted on 08/20/2013 8:46:33 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Tau Food

I think you answered your own question!
If Ted was born on US soil, to two US Citizen parents, Ted would be a Natural Born Citizen.

Canada would not have a claim of Citizenship
Cuba could not argue Cuba Citizenship, as the Father was a Cuban.

No need for made made US law to create “Citizenship” for Ted, as Ted has but one Citizenship option-United States of America Citizenship


68 posted on 08/20/2013 8:54:49 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: JCBreckenridge

$2.00 will get you an extra-large at Tim Horton’s.


69 posted on 08/20/2013 10:22:16 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: JCBreckenridge

My “point” is that the Panama Canal Zone was never under the full jurisdiction of the United States.


70 posted on 08/21/2013 2:49:43 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

And yet, it was... I’m sorry the laws don’t just change willy-nilly.


71 posted on 08/21/2013 3:22:43 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

Even a cursory look at the facts would highlight your error, here.


72 posted on 08/21/2013 3:51:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: mylife

Have been lucky in my part of North TX, can get a 12 pack of Blue at Wal-Mart.


73 posted on 08/21/2013 5:43:21 AM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: Peter Libra

Peter: “Multiculture -the disintegration of nations. The Framers of the Constitution must be turning in their graves.”

Considering that the country was already multicultural at that time, I doubt at all that the Framers would be too worried about it. Also, at that time, the country was encouraging different cultures to move here and settle so they could fill real needs in the country. For example, the country had almost NO NAVY after the Revolutionary War and needed shipbuilders, Captains, experienced naval personnel, etc. Your complaint is in your own imagination.


74 posted on 08/21/2013 1:10:41 PM PDT by JimMcW
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To: JimMcW
I thank you for your remarks and indeed your point is well taken. What I had meant was that the state of affairs since about 1968 in America. In a latter application of the immortal words on the Statue of Liberty, it appears to be "come one, come all". When John Masters, an English author applied for entry in the 1950's, the American authorities noticed he was born in British India. The yearly quota of persons from that country was 64 per year. I am not saying that was right however. Masters had to do a lot of explaining to get entry.

Today, the influx of Muslims, Somalis, and indeed Hispanics, may well change some of Rockwell's idealist portrait of America for ever. That America still exists in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, opposite where I live. Again there seem to be forces at work to tell some Americans what THEY should do to accommodate newcomers and THEIR particular requirements.

That about explains my stand on the subject.

75 posted on 08/21/2013 1:33:54 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: bgill
Even hussein agreed in Senate Resolution 511 that a NBC is one having TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS and BORN ON US SOIL.

Resolution 511 does not say that NBC requires those conditions.
76 posted on 09/01/2013 4:56:01 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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