Posted on 08/19/2013 6:17:17 PM PDT by kristinn
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) announced Monday evening that he will renounce his Canadian citizenship, less than 24 hours after a newspaper pointed out that the Canadian-born senator likely maintains dual citizenship.
Now the Dallas Morning News says that I may technically have dual citizenship, Cruz said in a statement. Assuming that is true, then sure, I will renounce any Canadian citizenship. Nothing against Canada, but Im an American by birth and as a U.S. senator; I believe I should be only an American.
SNIP
Because I was a U.S. citizen at birth, because I left Calgary when I was 4 and have lived my entire life since then in the U.S., and because I have never taken affirmative steps to claim Canadian citizenship, I assumed that was the end of the matter, Cruz said.
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Sorry you don’t have facts straight.
Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born (jus solis); naturalized; and citizen-by-statute (jus sanguinas, or derived citizenship from parents).
All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.
[Note: since BHO2 was inaugurated in January 2009, this section on citizenship statutes in the Naturalization and Immigration online site have been frequently altered. This presentation refers to what the statute stated in 2009.]
The following link will take you to the governments own Immigration Service web page.
Natural born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship. Natural born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of two citizen parents (jus sanguinas).
The definition of natural born Citizen appears in the holding of SCOTUSs unanimous decision of Minor v. Happersett (1874).
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that the Constitution did not grant women the right to vote...
The Minor v. Happersett ruling was based on an interpretation of the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Supreme Court readily accepted that Minor was a citizen of the United States, but it held that the constitutionally protected privileges of citizenship did not include the right to vote.
SCOTUS rejected Minors argument that she was a citizen under the 14th Amendment of the U.S.Constitution, and examined her eligibility, concluding that she belonged to the class of citizens who, being born in the U.S. of citizen parents, was a natural born Citizen, and not covered by the 14th Amendment. This holding has been used in 25 consequent SCOTUS decisions since 1875.
No one has the RIGHT to be President.
The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.
The following is often used to support people, like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, who seek to be President but it was superceded centuries ago and is a false argument.
The First U.S. Congress included in the 1790 Immigration & Naturalization Act language to alert the State Department to the fact that Americans born abroad are natural born citizens and are not to be viewed as foreigners due to foreign birth. They were not granted citizenship via that US statute rather citizenship was stated as a fact that must be recognized by immigration authorities. These children were not citizens by any other means than natural law, according to Congress, and statutory law was written to insure that their natural citizenship was recognized.
This is not a reasonable explanation. It fails to recognize that Congress only has powers over naturalization and has NO POWER to define natural born Citizen, which has nothing to do with naturalization. Furthermore, if Congress wants to tell the State Department something, they dont have to enact legislation to do it.
But more important is that all of the following naturalization acts, 1795, 1802, etc., were also passed to naturalize the children of U.S. citizens born abroad. And the words natural born were repealed in the 1795 Naturalization Act and never returned again.
“...Congress has no power to define “natural born Citizen”...”. This is important because that is exactly what happened in 2008 when Congress declared Sen.John McCain eligible to be President. He is not and never has been eligible due to his birth in an unincorporated territory, the Panama Canal Zone, where the Constitution did not follow the flag. Sen.McCain’s citizenship is jus sanguinas due to his parent’s U.S. citizenship status.
Note: BHO2 has NEVER claimed to be a natural born citizen but only a native born citizen.
Whats a plastic mack?
Funny how Cruz doing the right thing to clear his way to higher office, has EVERY ONE buzzing and he never said he was running for office, never spent a dime.
Smart fellow.
It’s a question of where the man was born. He was born in Canada - the principle being that one’s citizenship cannot be stripped away by politics, etc, that citizenship is placed upon where one is born, not one’s political affiliation.
This is core to the American definition of citizenship. Canada shares this principle. One can earn Canadian and American citizenship, but once born with it - cannot lose it.
The point being that in being born in Canada - Cruz’s primary citizenship and nationality is Canadian. This will not change. His Father being a Cuban National and his Mother being American adds claims to American and Cuban citizenship, on top of his Canadian citizenship. Since the Father usually takes precidence - for his early years American was his third not his first nationality.
The problem isn’t so much Cruz - the problem is that this is a gate. There are considerable foreign interests that would love to control the United States. If they can do so by winning enough Democrat primaries, and getting the support of Democrats (either through outright hatred of America, etc, then America is going to fall under foreign control and domination.
With the situation at present - they have to be from America. It wouldn’t be enough to just bring someone here and then run them or for someone who’s never resided in America at all to run (and win), the presidency.
This is the slope. The first step has already been crossed. The next step is to get the opposition to concede on this principle. Then you attack age restrictions and residency requirements (does it really matter how long they lived in the US)? What counts as ‘living in the US’, and so on and so forth.
It’s coming. We are not far from it. We can either forestall it or we can push it along faster.
Never heard it called that but I think of a Mackintosh raincoat.
Ay?
“was Cruz ever in the military?”
NO!
He just renounced Canadian allegiance.
End of story.
he declares allegiance to America, period.
That asswipe in office is obfuscating to this day.
Ted is doing more good than Orly Taitz ever could.
Eh?
That's not exactly what it says, but I won't quibble.
In any event, those who were considered NATURAL BORN CITIZENS included George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, James Madison, and everyone else who had been born in America. This has included every President ever elected.
Those who were NOT "natural born citizens" were people like Alexander Hamilton and James Wilson.
The grandfather clause was never used. Not even once.
And this is agreed upon by every real historian in history. Are you not able to read post #130? Or are you just a troll?
“This is important because that is exactly what happened in 2008 when Congress declared Sen.John McCain eligible to be President. He is not and never has been eligible due to his birth in an unincorporated territory, the Panama Canal Zone, where the Constitution did not follow the flag. Sen.McCains citizenship is jus sanguinas due to his parents U.S. citizenship status.”
*sigh*
This is false. Canal zone was equally American territory as is Guam and the rest of the overseas American territories (or Puerto Rico). No distinction is made between territories under the direct control of the federal government, and the overseas territories for this purposes.
Please see Barry Goldwater. He was born in Arizona Territory prior to the formation of the state. This is why the definition of American soil includes unincorporated territory.
“he declares allegiance to America, period.
That asswipe in office is obfuscating to this day.
Ted is doing more good than Orly Taitz ever could.”
So if BHO declared allegiance to America, this is sufficient for the presidency? No, sorry, it is not. He cannot obtain something he never had through renounciation of something else. You either have it from birth or you do not.
Are you stupid or just a troll?
I can go on vacation in Timbuktu and if the wife delivers a baby it is not a citizen of the Ottoman empire.
You’re a nut.
One for you.
What talent do the strip club girls demonstrate to pick up extra tips from the visiting Yanks?
“The grandfather clause was never used. Not even once.”
It was used 7 times, for every president up to van Buren.
That’s what the constitution actually says.
“And this is agreed upon by every real historian in history.”
Pity, when you have the facts, argue the facts, when you don’t have the facts, argue the status of the person who agrees with you.
Again - the constitution is clear. Those born as natural born citizens of the United States of America, or those who were citizens of the United States at the signing of the US Constitution in 1787.
It is impossible to be a natural born citizen of a country that did not exist when you were born. Washington through to Jackson were actually born British subjects to the crown, subject to HRH.
So while you’re arguing their French citizenship, it is odd that you ignore their English citizenship which came first.
Never. At least not the former.
“I can go on vacation in Timbuktu and if the wife delivers a baby it is not a citizen of the Ottoman empire.”
In America, that’s how citizenship works, same with Canada. Sorry you don’t like facts, but that’s the truth.
So it Presidency is a matter of what?
There are plenty of asswipes born to two American parents on American soil.
This is our qualification for a candidate?
And beyond that, Why beat up Cruz because you won’t stop running at the Obama BC BS?
The guy is in his second term.
You have lost the battle.
Why take a run at Cruz to prove your point?
Maybe I have you mixed up with another Birther.
You are extremely obtuse, just like Obama.
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