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To: SatinDoll

“This is important because that is exactly what happened in 2008 when Congress declared Sen.John McCain eligible to be President. He is not and never has been eligible due to his birth in an unincorporated territory, the Panama Canal Zone, where the Constitution did not follow the flag. Sen.McCain’s citizenship is jus sanguinas due to his parent’s U.S. citizenship status.”

*sigh*

This is false. Canal zone was equally American territory as is Guam and the rest of the overseas American territories (or Puerto Rico). No distinction is made between territories under the direct control of the federal government, and the overseas territories for this purposes.

Please see Barry Goldwater. He was born in Arizona Territory prior to the formation of the state. This is why the definition of American soil includes unincorporated territory.


150 posted on 08/19/2013 9:08:28 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: JCBreckenridge

Your information is false.

The Panama Canal Zone was, while Guam and Puerto Rico still are, unincorporated territories of the United States. Though persons born there can be statutory U.S. citizens, they are not natural born citizens.

Barry Goldwater was born in an incorporated territory prior to its becoming a state. Arizona was always expected to become a state in the union.

The Panama Canal Zone was leased territory which was still a part of the sovereign nation of Panama. I’ve been contacted by many Freepers who were born in the Canal Zone and have verified the facts as stated - born a statutory U.S. citizen but not a natural born citizen as the land belonged to Panama.

“No distinction is made between territories under the direct control of the federal government, and the overseas territories for this purposes.”

NO. Bwaa-ha-ha!

Get ‘yer facts straight, JC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._territories#Unincorporated_organized_territories

“The current political status of Puerto Rico...is an unincorporated territory of the United States which according to the U.S. Supreme Court’s Insular Cases is “a territory appurtenant and belonging to the United States, but not a part of the United States.”

In other words, the U.S.Constitution does not follow the flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Puerto_Rico


222 posted on 08/19/2013 11:32:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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