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"How could the Obama administration allow things to get to a point where authentic Egyptian democrats – who are a besieged minority – would justifiably believe, to their stunned dismay, that the United States is aligned with Badi and the Brothers, committed enemies of America and the West?"
1 posted on 08/17/2013 9:23:45 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Barry Goldwater identified this problem half a century ago.

Back then, the UN and the US Foreign Policy Community had an absolute mania for decolonizing Africa and other parts of the world. Goldwater called this a fool's errand. He pointed out that some people aren't ready for democracy, and for cultural and religious reasons they may never be. He predicted that the mania for democratization would only create a playground for the CIA and KGB. He argued for a hard-headed approach where it would be best for a nation to be ruled by a benevolent dictator, and one preferably loyal to the US, not the Soviet Union.

He was excoriated by the Mainstream Media for "wrong-headed thinking" and an "unprogressive" approach. But history proved him right. Islam will have to go through something like the Enlightenment before it can support democracy.

2 posted on 08/17/2013 9:29:14 AM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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McCarthy always hits the nail on the head.

People need to face reality.

Highly recommended reading for everyone.

McCarthy’s longer article:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/356019/egypts-one-chance-democracy-andrew-c-mccarthy


3 posted on 08/17/2013 9:30:52 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

uh, because Obama IS aligned with committed enemies of America and the west (and Israel)

He shares their values

He has open members of the muslim brotherhood working as advisors in his inner circle, and this continues- no accelerates - a long long period of cultivation and penetration

Long - but worth reading

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3672/muslim-brotherhood-us-government


6 posted on 08/17/2013 9:33:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Let's review: From an Egyptian in Alexandria
7 posted on 08/17/2013 9:37:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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The Egyptian People (majority) and the Military are now hunting down the MB before they had the chance to do what has happened in Turkey the past 10-years. The entire reason Turkey was rejected from EU Membership was because of the Religious fanatic leadership purging the government and military transforming into an Islamic backwards nation.

Good luck to the Egyptian military and people as they give no sanctuary or quarter to the MB.

8 posted on 08/17/2013 9:42:35 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The Muslim Brotherhood are like cockroaches, the solution is Raid.


9 posted on 08/17/2013 9:44:14 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The military is the only chance at what? Sisi is a radical who hates Israel.


10 posted on 08/17/2013 9:45:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: sheikdetailfeather
A military coup may not lead to "democracy," but in Egypt it may well lead to freedom. The African formula of "one man, one vote, one time," doesn't lead to freedom. I value freedom far more than I value democracy. After all, democracy, like aristocracy, is just a scheme for deciding who will be the next ruler. Neither one guarantees a good ruler, nor does either one guarantee freedom. The only advantage of democracy is that if the people vote in a bad ruler, they have only themselves to blame.
16 posted on 08/17/2013 9:59:08 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Spot on. Andy McCarthy knows the Islamic butchers better than most. The sad reality is that Egypt now realizes that freedom and Islam are incompatible. The only way any individual freedom can exist in a country occupied by Muslims is to beat the radical Islamist element into submission. They respect nothing but brut force and there is no way they will peacefully co-exist without constantly being forced into submisson.


18 posted on 08/17/2013 10:09:20 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Objective....Keep the Suez Canal OPEN or watch the entire world dive into recession or depression and possible war. If that oil route is cut off once again the results world wide will be devastating. One, repeat one ship sunk at the right place in the canal is all it will take...and the bad guys know it.


19 posted on 08/17/2013 10:14:15 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

It’s right there in his book. PG. 162. He said he was going to side with the muzzies, you know, his brothers.


20 posted on 08/17/2013 10:31:56 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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through the years it has always seemed that the Egyptian military has been a hedge against Islamic radicalism and outright government dictatorship.


21 posted on 08/17/2013 10:36:52 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horribili)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

No Arab nation can survive unless ruled by a dictator. We just need to go back to the old days and make sure it’s OUR dictator.


23 posted on 08/17/2013 1:01:17 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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