Posted on 08/11/2013 6:30:03 PM PDT by chessplayer
Does President Barack Obama think we’re stupid?
That’s the only conclusion possible after watching Friday’s bravura performance in which the president announced a set of proposals meant to bring more transparency to the National Security Agency — and claimed he would have done it anyway, even if Edward Snowden had never decided to leak thousands of highly sensitive documents to The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald.
But even as he grudgingly admitted that the timing, at least, of his suggestions was a consequence of Snowden’s actions, the president declared, “I don’t think Mr. Snowden was a patriot.” When you look at what has changed over the past two months, though, it’s hard not to wonder, “What could be more patriotic than what Snowden did?”
First, the results: More than a dozen bills have already been introduced to put a stop to the NSA’s mass phone record collection program and to overhaul the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has reinterpreted the Fourth Amendment in secret, creating a body of privacy law that the public has never read. A half-dozen new privacy lawsuits have been filed against the NSA. The Pentagon is undergoing an unprecedented secrecy audit. U.S. officials have been caught deceiving or lying to Congress. The list goes on.
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“We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor” — Snowden did this more than most people. He risked it all to do what he thought he had to do for his country.
i am with you. until its proven he shared data that compromises us security i will stick to this position.
if obozo dont like him, he must be a good guy........
By his own admission, he joined the NSA specifically to betray secrets.
Then he took those secrets and ran to any communist country that would have him. China, Russia, hell, he was shopping around for Cuba and Venezuela too.
Somehow he doesn’t seem the Patrick Henry type.
Obama hates America...anyone who rebels against the tyranny of Obama is a patriot.
Hold on...there is a knocking at my front door...
Minor correction: it's not Russia, it's the Soviet Union.
“We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor” — Snowden did this more than most people. He risked it all to do what he thought he had to do for his country.”
I TOTALLY agree. Mr. Edward Snowden is a PATRIOT! What COURAGE has shown! Our “government” is NOTHING but lies!
You can tell a lot about a man by his enemies.
And Snowden’s biggest enemy is a gay muslim Constitution-hater who gets our people killed and then lies about it.
GOOD GOING SNOWDEN...!
Let’s see who the kneepad-wearing badge-lickers are..!
Let’s get some real knee-padded quislings, come on guys, come on out..!
Eric Snowden is a POS traitor who’s actions jeopardized patriot’s lives. I retired from active duty in ‘02 & I was read out of programs that I’m sure have been declassified by now. Yet out of a sense of deep seeded patriotism I’ll never speak of programs that I know protected American lives. To see this Snowden coward embraced by some conservatives shakes my confidence in conservatism. Cheney is RIGHT, Snowden is not a patriot!
Does anyone with more sense than a rock (necessarily excludes Progressives) think for a second that they are building a gigantic data storage site in Utah just to keep the phone number, length of call, etc. metadata information that could easily be stored on a couple large servers? They are collecting all the information for calls, emails, financial transactions, and every thing electronic.
As I recall, he tried other nations first, and only Russia, Venezuela, etc. would accept him.
Bless you, Snowden. We all had some vague and hazey idea that we were being spied on. Snowden clarified that. It was far worse than we ever dreamed.
hazy
He is neither hero, nor a traitor, but luckily for us, many of his actions will have benefited us.
Rulebook SEZ don’t do it, but SNOWDEN DID..! Dat BAD...! >:(
Plus LOTS of suckaz with *short hair* ALSO sed heez baaaad..!
An lossa folks who don’ smoke da pot also no like him..!
Scrambled egg hat guys sed he bad, so he real bad...!!!
ALWAYS do whut people abuv you SAY..!!! Safe, an stuff..!
I got me a flag sticker and I was big-time Army, see? We got regs, and stuff...! RULES....!
RULES IS GOOD AN’ STUFF...!!! >_<
SNOWDEN BAAAAD...!!
Snowden is an ethically challenged useful idiot who did not use the resources available to him to make his concerns known to those who are responsible.
I do not believe, at the moment, they have to ability to “listen” to all phone conversations, but, with the phone numbers in the meta data they can rapidly drill down and listen to the conversations of interest if the conversations are recorded. It is when conversations can be analyzed in real time that I believe that the boundary has been overstepped. Your conduct is in the national interest and you have to prove you are innocent instead of proven guilty.
Those who violate the 4th Amendment and peeping tom my emails are despicable pigs!
I don’t see him as a hero. He was a leftist, who took the oath of secrecy with the deliberate intention of violating it. I don’t think he is a very nice guy.
That said, no question that what he did has benefitted the country, especially because he did it while Obama was in charge. Probably he would have been happier doing it when Bush was in charge, but never mind.
I think this is a case of the left betraying the left—an internal quarrel in the ranks of liberals. But I certainly agree that it has done a lot more good than harm.
Let’s see who the kneepad-wearing badge-lickers are..!
Let’s get some real knee-padded quislings, come on guys, come on out..!
They’re starting to crawl out of the woodwork.
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