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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Sat, Aug 10, 2013 | Karoun Demirjian

Posted on 08/10/2013 7:14:05 AM PDT by upchuck

In just about seven weeks, people will be able to start buying Obamacare-approved insurance plans through the new health care exchanges.

But already, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is predicting those plans, and the whole system of distributing them, will eventually be moot.

Reid said he thinks the country has to “work our way past” insurance-based health care during a Friday night appearance on Vegas PBS’ program “Nevada Week in Review.”

“What we’ve done with Obamacare is have a step in the right direction, but we’re far from having something that’s going to work forever,” Reid said.

When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

The idea of introducing a single-payer national health care system to the United States, or even just a public option, sent lawmakers into a tizzy back in 2009, when Reid was negotiating the health care bill.

“We had a real good run at the public option … don’t think we didn’t have a tremendous number of people who wanted a single-payer system,” Reid said on the PBS program...

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; corruptbastards; epa; fanniemae; federalreserve; freddiemac; harryreid; irs; nsa; obamacare; singlepayer; socialsecurity; uspostalservice
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Reid confirms what a bunch of here on FR have been saying since day one.

The bastards in Wash DC must first be subjected to the nightmare that is called nobamacare.

Then they will welcome "single-payer" with open arms.

Then they will learn the true evil of nobama's plan.

1 posted on 08/10/2013 7:14:05 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Related (same subject, different source):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3053147/posts


2 posted on 08/10/2013 7:15:47 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: upchuck

The IRS says the lowest insurance package for a family of four will be $20,000. Dividing $20,000 insurance cost by the number of working hours in a year (2,080) gives you an hourly cost of 9.61 just for the insurance. A minimum wage employee makes 7.79/hr * 2080 hrs= $16,203 dollars. That’s less than the cost of the insurance they’d buy for a family of four. Us taxpayers are supposed to make up the difference with subsidies. This is pure insanity.


3 posted on 08/10/2013 7:16:45 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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So, if you like nobamacare, you're gonna love Single Payer.
4 posted on 08/10/2013 7:20:28 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
That's precisely why it was set up to fail...



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5 posted on 08/10/2013 7:20:36 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Gen.Blather

Cost of heart surgery:

USA: ~$150,000
India:~$2,500

India has a better rate of survival 30 days out - about twice as good.

My concern is that we are institutionalizing a non-sustainable system that continues to be built on crony capitalism.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 7:23:35 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacituss)
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Nothing new here. Obama already said this years ago in 2008. We have it on video.

Obama on single payer health care.

7 posted on 08/10/2013 7:25:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: upchuck
do I really have to say it???

9 posted on 08/10/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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It was never anything else but.


10 posted on 08/10/2013 7:26:37 AM PDT by Roccus
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That is when all these database links come in real handy. Who is gun owner, who is conservative, tea partier, etc. We will get killed off. No antibiotics for us.


11 posted on 08/10/2013 7:27:11 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“USA: ~$150,000
India:~$2,500”

A 6 week vacation in india with a surgery over there would be cheaper then $150k. But it won’t be an option if i ever suffer a heart attack due the limited time toget there. :-(


12 posted on 08/10/2013 7:31:01 AM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: upchuck
When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

I have yet to see anyone discuss what effect this will have on those people who make their living in the healthcare insurance business.

I suppose they would just be filed under collateral damage.

This administration is 10 times lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.

Good morning NSA.

13 posted on 08/10/2013 7:47:41 AM PDT by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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To: upchuck

Nationalized healthcare / socialism bump for later.........


14 posted on 08/10/2013 7:49:36 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Gen.Blather

My gold plated Cadillac insurance cost ~20k with eye care and dental (pre tax).
At a recent meeting on the new benefits they brought an attorney! On the more interesting questions they would check with the attorney then mumble.

My 6k $ top of the line hearing aids were mostly paid for. The new plan 1500$ per ear.

0bama care provides a large plastic funnel and a thick book or rules on how not use it.

Oh! But the new plan pays for a sex change if I want one!!

Such a deal!!!


15 posted on 08/10/2013 7:52:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: corrupt bastards in Wash DC, Sarah Palin

The bastards corrupt bastards in Wash DC must first be subjected to the nightmare that is called nobamacare.


16 posted on 08/10/2013 7:53:18 AM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do*s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: bamahead; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; socialismisinsidious; GailA; Ravi; cajungirl; nikos1121; ...
That's precisely why it was set up to fail...

Exactly! And Reid, and just about the entire 'Rat pack that supported it without bothering to read the bill, knew this all along. No great revelation from him here.

17 posted on 08/10/2013 7:59:01 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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What the intention is/was...Just like Medicare....

As soon as you start working, they will be taking an insurance premium for healthcare....a percentage of your salary.

Of course, the usual welfare "bums" will pay nothing. In fact, they'll probably receive more benefits than someone who is paying....just like they do now.

18 posted on 08/10/2013 8:03:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: upchuck
Paul Ryan,
Marco Rubio,
John Boehner,
Mitch McConnell,
Roy Blunt,
etc., etc., etc.,!

Will you wake up now?????

Defund this garbage!

19 posted on 08/10/2013 8:03:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gen.Blather

Don’t worry. This is also going to get them to their so far unstated goal of a Guaranteed National Income. All production in the hands of the central planners and all equally miserly benefits doled out to those who go along.

The distinctions between workers and clients is socially unjust. We’ll all get to labor for the government and in return, the government will provide for those needs that they deem worthy at rates they decide. This is going to accelerate the practices seen in failing states and in the urban ghettos of everyone having an off the books gig to provide extra, non-taxable income. Those with no skills will simply exist on kibble in their high rise 250 sq foot cell with communal kitchen and bath.

Eventually, this will have to include the government workers themselves, but that is so far in the future, no one will even notice until it hits them broadside.


20 posted on 08/10/2013 8:03:26 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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