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Colorado Apartment Building Tells Tenants They Have to Get Rid of Their Guns — or Leave
The Blaze ^ | 8/7/13 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 08/07/2013 9:07:17 AM PDT by MissTed

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To: Mr. K
Sounds like a great opportunity for another landlord to announce he WELCOMES ONLY gun-permit holders.

I'd offer a 5% rent discount to gun permit holders! (Because they would need to be squeaky-clean to pass the background checks. Probably much more likely than the average apartment renter.)

21 posted on 08/07/2013 9:18:36 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“How would that benefit the residents who are being forced to give up their guns.”

Because it would show the silliness and the danger of the proposal. It would wake up the tenants to contact the board or whatever that passed such a silly ordinance. Make them realize the actual ramifications of their new “law”: that the tenants in that building will be ripe and ready for robberies and crime etc.


22 posted on 08/07/2013 9:18:43 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And the NRA should jump in.

I'm not sure the NRA is a good organization; it's been pushing for limited rulings when it was clear the broad rulings were very, or even more, more likely.
They don't get involved in no-profile/proactive state legal issues.
Plus the constant, consistent give us money letters.

I'm almost inclined to believe that they're the Gun Rights equivalent of the Republican Party: and everyone knows the Republican party is all talk and no action.

23 posted on 08/07/2013 9:19:05 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: DuncanWaring

This is going to get interesting. State law forbids governments from trampling firearms rights but it says nothing about private contracts and property.


24 posted on 08/07/2013 9:20:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: MissTed

I would not want to live there. It has all the makings of a “come rob, rape and/or kill me” aura about it.

Even before I owned a gun, just living in a neighborhood where it was known that random/numerous homeowners were armed made me feel safer. I would not want to live in a building/neighborhood where it had gun free zone signs at the entrance.

I hope someone steps up to find these tenants a new home.


25 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:00 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Vigilanteman

BULLS-EYE!

KYPD


26 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:35 AM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: MissTed

Burglars and home invaders take notice.


27 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:48 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: MissTed

wanna bet the owners of Ross Management are gated community members.. that don’t make residents live gun free?

Colorado has faded into a smoky gunpowder free zone, not fit for man or beast to endure..


28 posted on 08/07/2013 9:21:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: henkster
On the other hand, if the landlord starts putting it in writing as a term in future leases, they can do that. It’s their building.

However the law doesn't treat it that way for many other situations. Can the landlord refuse to rent to blacks, Hispanisc, Asians, unmarried women, families with children (narrow legal exception for seniors only communities), homosexuals, Muslims, Jews, communists, democrats or even ex-convicts? I think they would have a hard time excluding people for exercising an explicit Constitutional right.

29 posted on 08/07/2013 9:22:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: ilgipper
Pretty sure the US Constitution trumps the management company handbook and lease document.

Actually it doesn't. The Constitution prohibits the government from abridging your right to keep and bear arms, but does not prohibit a property owner from infringing on said rights on their tenants. Now if it wasn't in the existing lease, they can't change the terms of the lease until it comes up for renewal. But on all new leases they can impose such a restrictions.

Frankly I would ignore such an idiotic provision if I lived there. Their only recourse if they find out you have guns is to evict you. And how are they going to find the guns if you don't tell them you have them?

This is just a publicity stunt and it is going to give them a lot of publicity. Bad publicity. They will lose a lot of good tenants over this and they will exchange them for really really really bad tenants.

30 posted on 08/07/2013 9:22:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Vigilanteman

They PREFER Section 8 tenants. If you’re a working stiff, you could lose your job and stop paying. But the gov’t check is guaranteed.


31 posted on 08/07/2013 9:23:30 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: MissTed

In my apartment complex, people are buying guns. WE live in a very good part of town, the complex is very attractive, beautifully landscaped, but gangs are trying to muscle into the neighborhoods on either side of us. As recently as last week, there was a gunfight in our parking lot at 2:30 a.m.

I called the police, they arrived 20 minutes later. Swell.

Next morning I learned that one woman had someone banging at her door trying to get in while the fight was going on. An elderly woman, a real sweetie, had to call the ambulance, as it threw her into shock. She did not even consider calling the police or asking that fingerprints be taken from her door.


32 posted on 08/07/2013 9:24:46 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: MissTed

Unconstitutional. Fight.


33 posted on 08/07/2013 9:25:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: MissTed

The case law is mostly pre-heller.

The education process is to teach these landlords we are discussing a fundamental right. Secure in ones property includes the “property of rights”. It also flows to quiet enjoyment.

This is akin to saying no unmarried adults, no mixed race persons, no people of a certain religion, no religious displays INSIDE appartments etc.

The second amendment is no different than the other first nine amendments or the body of the constitution.


34 posted on 08/07/2013 9:26:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Jewbacca

not just a good lawsuit, due to the fundamental right nature of the case the landlord must pay for opposing counsel fees DURING THE LAWSUIT even if he wins in the end.

His lawyer should be sued for malpractice.


36 posted on 08/07/2013 9:27:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MissTed

In 1989, I moved into an apartment in Charlotte, NC. When my roommate and I went to sign the lease agreement, we also were required to sign a form stating if we got pregnant, we would be required to move out within three months of the birth. I asked if the father lived in the complex would he have to leave as well and was told no. We both signed as we were to start our careers as flight attendants with the next few days and didn’t have the time to find another safe, acceptable place. While we didn’t plan on getting pregnant, it was just terrible to ‘suck it up’ and sign something that just felt so incredibly abusive against women. I wished I had fought it.


37 posted on 08/07/2013 9:28:29 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: P-Marlowe
The Constitution prohibits the government from abridging your right to keep and bear arms, but does not prohibit a property owner from infringing on said rights on their tenants.

I'm amazed at how many people on this thread do not realize the Bill of Rights applies only to the Government.

38 posted on 08/07/2013 9:29:06 AM PDT by gdani
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To: MissTed

I would think current leases rule.

At the end of the current lease, depending on state law, the tenant could automatically go into a month-to-montuh lease without doing any paperwork (new lease contract), with 7 to 30 day notice from either party to terminate the m2m. Would depend on state law though.

The other possibility is to just lie.

“No ma’am...no guns here. Guns are evil.”


39 posted on 08/07/2013 9:29:36 AM PDT by moovova
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To: MissTed

I’m not for suing at the drop of a hat but this is one case that needs to be taken to court. Sue that guy until the building belongs to the tennants.


40 posted on 08/07/2013 9:29:46 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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