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Colorado Apartment Building Tells Tenants They Have to Get Rid of Their Guns — or Leave
The Blaze ^ | 8/7/13 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 08/07/2013 9:07:17 AM PDT by MissTed

An apartment complex in Colorado has news for tenants: get rid of your guns, or get out. Colorado Apartment Building Tells Tenants They Have to Get Rid of Their Guns or Leave

Art Dorsch said he’ll either have to give up his guns or move out of his apartment. (Image source: KUSA-TV)

The Oakwood Apartments in Castle Rock, Colo. sent notice to residents last week of a new provision banning all “firearms and weapons” from the premises, KUSA-TV reported. Tenants have until Oct. 1 to comply.

Art Dorsch, a 77-year-old retired Marine Corps veteran, told KUSA he’s afraid he’ll lose his home if he doesn’t go along with the new rule. He’s a hunter and has a concealed carry permit.

Dorsch, who’s living on a fixed income, said managers told him he has three options: get rid of his guns and stay, keep his guns and move out voluntarily, or keep his guns and be forced out.

“It upsets me very much,” Dorsch told the station.

He said he keeps his guns secured in a safe and that having them makes him feel secure in his home.

“They want to take them all away from me, they say I can’t live here,” he said. Colorado Apartment Building Tells Tenants They Have to Get Rid of Their Guns or Leave

The Oakwood Apartments in Colorado sent notice to residents last week. (Image source: KUSA-TV)

KUSA legal analyst Scott Robinson said courts have generally supported landlords’ rights to impose “reasonable regulations” on their tenants.

“The question is: is an outright ban of firearms reasonable in light of the U.S. Constitution?” Robinson told KUSA.

The Ross Management Group, which manages the Oakwood Apartments, declined to comment to KUSA. Castle Rock is just south of Denver.

As the debate over gun control raged through the country, Colorado this year passed controversial new legislation limiting ammunition magazines and imposing universal background checks on all gun buyers.

July 20 marked the one-year anniversary since a shooter massacred 12 people and injured 70 at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; colorado; florida; georgezimmerman; guncontrol; secondamendment; trayvonmartin
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To: Veto!

I Was woke up at 3 AM by a woman trying to beat down my door, so I let her out.

-Larry the Cable Guy

- sorry I couldn’t resist...
8^)


101 posted on 08/07/2013 10:52:51 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: MissTed

Every thief in town will be watching this with baited breath...


102 posted on 08/07/2013 10:58:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories make bad law...)
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To: MissTed

WHAT the HELL’S the name of this place....

‘THE SITTIN DUCK ARMS’?

‘PLUCKED PIGEON WAY’?

‘COME N ROBME COVE’?

WHUT?


103 posted on 08/07/2013 10:58:49 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: jimsin

Armless Towers


104 posted on 08/07/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: MissTed
sent notice to residents last week of a new provision banning all “firearms and weapons” from the premises

Crossbows & other archery equipment.

Rattail combs ... dementia patient arrested in California on 'deadly weapons' charge for one, as well as several students around the country for just having one in her purse.

Baseball bats, hammers, ax handles, golf clubs, chairs, lamps, vases, rolling pins, frying pans, fireplace pokers/umbrellas (a 2-fer, as also a pointy weapon!) etc...to numerous & common to list cases.

Sharp blades: steak knives, butcher knives, hunting knives, pocket knives, etc....just ask TSA.

Pointy objects: Scissors, screwdrivers, nail files, kitchen skewers, BBQ forks, etc.

Projectile weapons: rocks, bricks, etc.

Lets not even get not "bomb making materials; the kitchen, bathroom, laundry room, and garages, and garbage cans are usually pretty well stocked.

Those units will have to be stripped pretty bare, as EVERY ONE of those things, and more, have gotten people arrested on "weapons charges".

When I was kid, a neighbor was arrested for a "concealed weapon" during a traffic stop & search, because he had a pair of hay-hooks in his car's trunk that also had a lot of exculpatory evidence that he used it/them for hauling bales of hay to his horse!

105 posted on 08/07/2013 11:06:02 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Gaffer

Exactly. They have an existing contract that didn’t say you couldn’t keep guns, so if they try to come back and add new provisions, then they’re violating the contract. Course nothing says they can’t add new conditions when the lease expires and is renewed. Also, many apartments make you sign a 6-month or 12-month lease when you move in, then after that it converts to month-to-month status, which presumably means either party can terminate on a month’s notice for any reason. PLUS...even if he has a lease, it might say they can add conditions at any time. If he signed that lease, he’s an idiot, but he may have done.


106 posted on 08/07/2013 11:07:29 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Projectile weapons: rocks, bricks, etc.

...food mixer, toaster, jars and cans of food....

107 posted on 08/07/2013 11:08:59 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: jonno

Someone had to say that. LOL


108 posted on 08/07/2013 11:12:38 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: beaversmom; MileHi; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; RandallFlagg; dynachrome; GSWarrior; ...

and CO lawmakers granted immunity from parking, speeding tickets while happily gouging little people

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3052035/posts

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


109 posted on 08/07/2013 11:45:57 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: gdani

Read the Second Amendment and tell me where it mentions “government” or “Congress.”

As conservatives, we cherish the rights by which we are endowed by our Creator. Governments don’t give us those rights and governments can’t take them away. And neither can apartment owners.

The right to private property does not usurp or negate the right to keep and bear arms any more than it negates any other constitutional rights

And your statement about the Bill of Rights is just plain wrong.


110 posted on 08/07/2013 11:46:18 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
Read the Second Amendment and tell me where it mentions “government” or “Congress.”

And your statement about the Bill of Rights is just plain wrong.

I find it hard to believe and very disheartening you (and others) have made it this far on FR and not learned the Bill of Rights applies only to government.

111 posted on 08/07/2013 11:53:54 AM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
I'm amazed at how many people on this thread do not realize the Bill of Rights applies only to the Government.

I'm amazed at both sides!

Civil rights can't be violated by private companies anymore. "No blacks allowed" is verboten. That is true.

Yes, the BoR was meant to apply only to the government. Nothing more certain.

Nevertheless, the whole thing is up to the judge these days. Constitution, BoR -- pff! Civil rights, freedom of association -- pff!

And I'll tell you what the judge will say, 99 times out of a hundred. He'll say the landlord has to suck it up. Regardless of right, wrong, common sense, lease, or his opinion on 2A...he'll say the landlord is the bad guy. The reason is beside the point, although the usual reason is that tenants have all the rights not specifically forfeited by them in their lease...and sometimes they have those rights too! When a tenant signs a lease that says, for example, that he has to fix a clogged toilet by himself at his own expense, most judges will say the landlord still has the legal obligation. In other words, even the lease isn't the final say. The judge has final say.

Only a fanatically anti-gun judge would side with the landlord here.

The law? So 18th c.

112 posted on 08/07/2013 12:04:57 PM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: beaversmom

Thanks, beaversmom!


113 posted on 08/07/2013 12:37:20 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: gdani

I find it disheartening that you post on Free Republic and can’t (or won’t) read simple English.


114 posted on 08/07/2013 1:06:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
I find it disheartening that you post on Free Republic and can’t (or won’t) read simple English.

Ever hear that expression about what you should do when you find yourself in a hole?

Really - it's embarrassing. This is 7th grade civics class stuff.

115 posted on 08/07/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by gdani
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To: ConservativeInPA

second amendment is no less fundamental than the first amendment. Remember these appartments are legally a “castle” to each tennant. Such association is not unlike the old property deeds in the hamptons that would have “no jews” clauses.


116 posted on 08/07/2013 1:29:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gdani

Either cite something to back up your balderdash or at least refrain from your unearned, smug condescension when making your argument.

The Bill of Rights does not, either by intent or precedent, apply solely to Congress. Even where amendments are explicitly limited to Congress, the courts have historically expanded the scope of constitutional protections beyond their original boundaries.


117 posted on 08/07/2013 1:39:12 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: MissTed

That apartment building is going to become gang territory sooner or later


118 posted on 08/07/2013 1:42:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Mr. K

only permit holders?

Do you need a permit in CO to simply have a gun in your home?

Sounds like tyranny to me


119 posted on 08/07/2013 1:43:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: morphing libertarian

LIBTARD REST

TARGET INN

FECKLESS FREEHOLD

SURRENDER ARMS
(BWHAAH THAT’S A GOOD ONE EVEN THO I DO SAY SO MYSELF)

ANYBODY ELST?


120 posted on 08/07/2013 2:25:01 PM PDT by jimsin
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