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To: INVAR
You’re comparing apples to bowling balls and your grasp of history seems lacking.

Seriously. Did you learn that from Obama? I just quoted verifiable historical facts from recent history to you, and you brush them off like I'm making it all up.

I posed an honest question to you about the very scenario we're discussing, and you wave it away while posing a very different scenario to me as an answer.

1930s Germany was very different than today's America, because of one important factor that exists here, and which I pointed out TWICE to you. That is the presence of an ARMED population numbering in the tens of millions.

Until a dictatorial U.S. President figures out how to get the estimated 300,000,000 firearms out of the hands of 100,000,000 citizens, it doesn't matter how badly he wants to subjugate us through force. It can't be done.

97 posted on 08/05/2013 3:56:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Seriously. Did you learn that from Obama? I just quoted verifiable historical facts from recent history to you, and you brush them off like I'm making it all up.

Like I said - apples and bowling balls. An invasion force to drive from power a foreign regime and a people being subjugated to 'fundamental transformation' BY their own government ELECTED by duped ignoramuses and ideologues - are totally different sets of 'facts' in relation to history and how a domestic people react to them.

If the Russkies or Norks parachuted into the country to conquer us via a Red Dawn scenario - then I would fully agree with your assessment of how we would react and the invaders wold not stand a freaking chance against the firepower of the citizenry.

But we're not talking about an invasion force of foreigners - we're talking about a rogue government that more than half this nation thinks is legitimate - and all it's unConstitutional acts and decrees are THE LAW OF THE LAND.

1930s Germany was very different than today's America,

Not by much. We're further down the road of debt insanity than Weimar was. The difference here is, Hitler CAPITALIZED on an opportunity to take total power. Obama and the MarxoFascists are CREATING THE OPPORTUNITY.

Until a dictatorial U.S. President figures out how to get the estimated 300,000,000 firearms out of the hands of 100,000,000 citizens, it doesn't matter how badly he wants to subjugate us through force. It can't be done.

We simply haven't hit our breaking point. The real pain and suffering hasn't hit us where we live yet. When it does, all bets are off.

The MarxoFascists are counting on it - that is why they are creating that scenario. Chaos and bloodshed will have the people screaming for someone to put things back to 'normal' and they will trade their birthright for a promise of bread.

Jefferson understood a crucial fact of human nature as noted in the Constitution "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

We are already becoming accustomed to tyranny. Any talk of resisting it is met with exclamations of incredulity and pronouncements of mental instability.

And it will, because today's crop of left-liberals doesn't know when to let up. They see what they think is the finish line, and they've abandoned their old modus operandi, which was a slow and steady, incrementalism.

Absolutely and positively correct. I think they are already there. I contend that they will make that last mistake - and at that moment we will be justified to resist by any and all means possible.

In the bargain, they've awakened the people, who are showing their alarm by pushing firearms sales into unprecedented ranges.

We will see whether or not this people have the long-term stomach for resistance. I'm sorry to say I have my doubts, we're too soft, fat and lazy - I learned that lesson myself being in a 3rd world hellhole. There is only so much we will suffer and endure because of our comfortable lives.

They're not stupid. They know we're going to snap, and they intend to be ready for it, but it's a fool's errand. The combined military forces of the planet can't overcome an armed citizenry 100 million strong, unless they resort to bombing the whole country back to the stone age.

Control the food, water, transportation and communications and organs of commerce - and you do not need to bomb a country into submission. You can starve them into it. Impoverish them into it. All under the color of law.

I'd say they're screwed any way you want to look at it.

Give us liberty or give us death... yes? We may have one option of liberty left us before it's all done - and that is to decide how we are going to go out. On our knees in a camp - or standing and dying free.

The Obama regime is not going to tolerate any dissent as time goes on, and they will use everything from food and water to all the EO's and laws to enforce it's will - all "legally". Just as John Roberts decreed ObamaCare to be.

102 posted on 08/05/2013 4:58:49 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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