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War game? Those aren’t chess pieces we’re sending overseas to get killed.
I respect him for being able to rethink his views.
To think, bombing the hell out of people in the guise of “democracy” actually back fires?
Should have gone into Afghanistan with 300k troops, finished off AQ and the Taliban quickly and once and for all, sealed the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the military could have been out of there by 2006.
Going into Iraq was a stupid mistake by Bush and Cheney. A trillion dollars spent to give Iran a client state in the ME.
Better late than never. However, the problem is not intervening or intervening but HOW we intervene ie: WWI, WWII, Iraq vs Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan.
I don’t trust Newt.
The problem with many neocons is that the light comes through too late for them.
I’d suggest that we need to avoid both extremes: (1) intervening as much as we have; and (2) never intervening at all.
Never intervening at all has one big problem — what do we do if the bad guys keep intervening and expanding their captive territory? It happened before WWI with a bad guy named Adolph. Sooner or later, we’d have to call on the so-called “neocons.”
It’s funny, because in the late-90s, Bush and the GOP were arguing ‘against’ all the interventionist nation-building of the Clinton administration. It sounded like the Republican line was to get back to the solid conservative tradition of having a strong, defensive military, be less inclined towards foreign adventurism, and if-and-when ‘war’ became a necessity, go all-out for total victory and then leave.
We got the opposite. Anyway, the aspect that leaves the most bitter taste in my mouth is that while the Bush crowd was singularly obsessed by all this, the rest of the country has gone to utter hell... mind-boggling debt, ever-increasing government tyranny, and a culture that has dived headlong into the sewer with utter deviancy like fag marriage. The upshot is that I frankly no longer give a damn about anything to do with the Middle East.
“It may be that our capacity to export democracy is a lot more limited than we thought,” he said.
The UNDERSTATEMENT of the Millenium.
In Islam, there are only three possibilities: Anarchy, Theocracy, Military Dictatorship.
Its in our interests to support the latter as least harmful to us, as long as that military dictatorship serves OUR needs.
Islam is a totally evil, indefensible, anti-western fascist ideology. There are no such thing as “good” Muslims, just Muslims who practise their religion and those who are Muslim in name only. They are ALL dangerous.
Well, when GWB left the office of Presidency, the world was not this screwed up. What we have had the past 4 1/2 years is neocon policies administered through Obama/Hillary/Kerry. That has been a recipe for disaster. They could not get massive military support for any neocon policies because they had railed against the second war on Iraq. So the only tool the neocons had was to fund rebels and terrorist with arms. The result is civil wars throughout the region. Iraq was stable when GWB left office.
Does anyone listen to Newt anymore?
You know, when Newt takes the conservative view on things, few are better in articulating that particular conservative position. Problem with Newt is, he sometimes loses his common sense and just does stupid things. His view on global warming and sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelosi for a commercial. Lets also not forget is “evolving” on immigration (read: Amnesty).
Don’t misunderstand; it’s always good to have Newt on our side with all cylinders firing; problem is, I don’t always trust him.
How does Gingrich miss the link between our domestic and foreign policy?
It starts with sealing our own borders and drilling for our own oil. Then stop funding every extremist regime or anyone with ties to them, including the UN. That will stop most of the crap. We are way to friendly with the enemy under the guise of trying to buy their friendship. Let’s see how they eat if we stop paying.
And if any government hosts or sponsors terrorists that plan to attack us, send in the drones and stealth bombers to destroy any infrastructure that allows them to communicate or travel, and flatten any place suspected of hiding terrorists.
We have no business nor moral authority to tell anyone what to do here at home, let alone our neighbors in the world, not as hypocritical and juvenile as we have become in our current national adolescence.
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"I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation has a right to intermeddle in the internal concerns of another;
that every one has a right to form and adopt whatever government they liked best to live under themselves;
and that if this country could, consistently with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace,
it was bound to do so by motives of policy, interest, and every other consideration."
--George Washington, from Letter to James Monroe, August 25,1796
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"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible.
So far as we have already formed engagements let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith.
Here let us stop."
-- George Washington, farewell address, 1796
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Please, this is nonsense.
The world-managing Anglo-American financial oligarchy runs the US gov’t, it’s foreign policy, “soft power projection”, CIA, etc., etc.
The oligarchy continues merrily on its way running things - and politicians obediently refuse to publicly acknowledge their true masters.
The oligarchy has been making moves in the mideast for over 100 years (for example, the MB key founder was an MI6 operative), and most of what the press says about them is a fairy tale. The oligarchy has their people placed at the top of all the intelligence services and can manufacture whatever situations they desire and the press will never report on it.
The current mideast has Israel and the muslim nations set up for whatever intervention the oligarchy wants, with just a little maneuvering, whether it’s all-out regional war or little wars within one country at a time.
The political “machines” in the US (including those in the schools, press and churches) are easily employed by the oligarchy to stir up public anger and support for war in the mideast. And the public mostly does not realize it’s fighting on behalf of the globalist financial oligarchy.
And billions of American taxpayer dollars continually go to the mideast through programs like USAID (to both sides of the conflict), money which is then spent buying from large US corporations (again, the oligarchy) that sell equipment, construction, military, etc., goods and services. Billions of dollars, almost half of which the taxpayer will pay in the future, since it’s borrowed from the oligarchy’s government bond market.
For decades, our foreign policies have been an utter disaster.
It’s looted the American treasure, corrupted government even more and laid waste to tens of thousands of Americans.
Even people like Newt are sucked in by the idea of “democracy” but it doesn’t seem they ever give much thought to the exact character of the people they want to give the vote to.
Did they think the Arab countries were jam packed with American style conservatives just waiting for a chance to elect an arab clone of Ronald Reagan?
We should not be there at all. Just leave USA and keep our money and military here!