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Let's hear it for home schools [86th percentile in science, 84th percentile math]
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 21, 2013 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 08/03/2013 10:45:53 PM PDT by grundle

The best educated children in America don't go to school.

Brian Ray, president of the National Home Education Research Institute, compared home schoolers and public school students on the results of three standardized tests -- the California Achievement Test, the Iowa Test of Basic Skills and the Stanford Achievement Test -- for the 2007-2008 academic year. With public school students at the 50th percentile, home schoolers were at the 89th percentile in reading, the 86th percentile in science, the 84th percentile in language, math and social studies.

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KEYWORDS: education; frhf; homeschool; homeschooling
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To: Veggie Todd

I think the homeschooled kids are winning the Geography Bee. East Indian children are winning the spelling bee, lately.


61 posted on 08/04/2013 7:24:45 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: wintertime

You got that right! It seems that the solution to any problem is to have moral parents more involved in their children’s lives.


62 posted on 08/04/2013 7:26:24 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: lurk

I’ve homeschooled five kids. Discipline is key. If your kids are squalling brats, roll up your sleeves and deal with it. Sure, it’s easier to send them to government drones to tolerate for a day. Parenting is hard WORK. I understand completely a need for a break here and there, but don’t let’s use the excuse that we can’t home school our kids due to their being squalling brats! They are OUR kids, right? We set the behavior standards.


63 posted on 08/04/2013 7:29:41 AM PDT by Persevero (qu)
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To: Shimmer1

It would be nice to be independently wealthy so that both parents could have more involvement in the children’s education. I realized long ago that a bigger or fancier house wouldn’t make me any happier ... although I would really like a shed!


64 posted on 08/04/2013 7:33:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: rabidralph

You got that right! It seems that the solution to any problem is to have moral parents more involved in their children’s lives.
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When did godlessness and socialism ever produce moral parents or citizens?

Yet...Godlessness and socialism is what is taught in **every** government owned and run Borg-machine indoctrination center!

Children who attend godless schools **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless school and with the godless instruction. It is impossible not to. How could it be otherwise?

And...Children in compulsory attendance and socialist-entitlement K-12 indoctrination centers risk learning to be comfortable with socialism and government compulsion. Hey! Any voting mob powerful enough to give a child tuition-free schooling is certainly powerful enough to give them **lots** of “free” stuff.


66 posted on 08/04/2013 7:42:17 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: metmom

All this stat means is that home schooled kids likely have involved, intelligent parents who are likely wealthier and smarter than the average parents.
Your ignorance of homeschoolers and homeschooling is staggering.

——————————————————————————————Great post. Thank you for saving me the time to respond to this poster. You nailed it.


67 posted on 08/04/2013 7:49:18 AM PDT by Joshua
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To: Tax-chick

We could all be more productive with a bigger shed :-)


68 posted on 08/04/2013 7:49:53 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: Tax-chick

ehhh. All they do is fill up with junque. Ask me how I know. Ok, I’ll tell you. I have a double garage!!


69 posted on 08/04/2013 7:56:05 AM PDT by Shimmer1 ("What a poor, ignorant, malicious, short-sighted, crapulous mass." John Adams)
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To: driftless2
my mother didn't have time with sometimes four or five squalling brats running around the house.

Well, I may have to agree with you there, but just because you had terrible parents who apparently didn't give a damn about their kids doesn't mean others do.

70 posted on 08/04/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: staytrue
It's true that statistics can be misused. But, this statistic shows that homeschooling as a method of education is very effective.

All this stat means is that home schooled kids likely have involved, intelligent parents who are likely wealthier and smarter than the average parents.

Involved? YES, DEFINITELY. Homeschooling requires you to be involved.

Smarter than average? I'd like to believe that we are, but we probably are not. INVOLVEMENT seems to be the key.

Wealthy? DEFINITELY NOT. We're from all walks of life, but most of us are struggling financially. Homeschooling is a full-time job with no paycheck.

the public school scores are dragged down by the scores of blacks and hispanics.

There has been a big boom in homeschooling among black families. (I don't know if that's true for Hispanic families.) It's the method of education that makes the difference, not the person's ethnic heritage.

71 posted on 08/04/2013 8:08:29 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: rabidralph; Shimmer1

We have a double garage, too. Half has the Purple Car in it, and the other half is full of bicycles, camping gear, and Stuff. If we could put the yardwork tools in a shed and the camping gear in a bigger attic, the rest of the garage stuff could be kept under control. (I imagine ...)


72 posted on 08/04/2013 8:12:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I didn’t have terrible parents....my point was that only a small percentage of American parents have the resources to home school their children. I’m all for home schooling if practicable. But the facts are in most cases either both parents work, the parents are not qualified to teach, or both. If the parent is qualified, fine. But how many parents are qualified to teach higher level math, physics, and chemistry? Don’t expect every family to be able to pull their kids out of school and home school them.


73 posted on 08/04/2013 8:14:46 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: metmom

And how do you know most parents are qualified? My parents weren’t. Maybe 20-30% are. At lower grade levels probably more. How many parents are qualified to teach upper level math, physics, chemistry, etc? How many families do you think have a parent who can stay home while the other parent works and is qualified to teach? And in today’s society, usually both parents work. I’ve stated previously, I’m all for home schooling if practicable. But only a small percentage of families will be able to do so.


74 posted on 08/04/2013 8:24:08 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Tax-chick

That’s what you think! LOL!


75 posted on 08/04/2013 9:01:09 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: rabidralph

Just wishful thinking, huh?


76 posted on 08/04/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Shimmer1

My brother’s wife homeschools the children while he works. Yes, it’s a huge financial sacrifice for them but the kids are well-behaved, smart and committed Christians. But it has been worth it and God has continued to guide them as they live life together.


77 posted on 08/04/2013 9:04:56 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: Tax-chick

Nature abhors a vacuum or something like that.


78 posted on 08/04/2013 9:11:06 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: rabidralph

Too true ... and I firmly believe inanimate objects reproduce, and also eat one another.


79 posted on 08/04/2013 9:12:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: driftless2

People can educate themselves. You sound like the gungrabbers who can’t comprehend that law-abiding citizens can learn to safely handle firearms and shoot really well them. That’s only for police and military folks.


80 posted on 08/04/2013 9:13:04 AM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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