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The Real J. Edgar Hoover? (The rumor that he was gay was Communist disinformation)
American Thinker ^ | 08/03/2013 | Paul Kengor, Grove City College

Posted on 08/03/2013 7:07:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edward S. Miller, a lifetime FBI man of high rank and stature, recently passed away at the age of 89. A good man and good American, Miller, who was also a veteran of World War II (Okinawa), faithfully served his family, country, and God. He also faithfully served the agency that hired him in 1950, as well as the longtime head of that agency, J. Edgar Hoover.

I was fortunate to spend a long Saturday afternoon with Ed Miller back in March, at long last meeting him after previously only corresponding with him. (He was an alumnus of Grove City College, where I teach.) It was a time I won't forget, and Miller had some things he wanted me not to forget -- and to share with the public.

Foremost among them was his take on J. Edgar Hoover. He wanted the world to know what he insisted was the real J. Edgar Hoover -- a man totally contrary to the hysterical left-wing Hollywood portrayal that frames the FBI director as a mix between lunatic anti-communist, power-hungry Napoleonic authoritarian, and closet homosexual and cross-dresser. According to Ed Miller, none of it was true.

"He was terrific," Miller told me of Hoover, instantly knowing that such isn't the typical take on the man who was the face of the FBI for parts of six decades. During our detailed and varied conversation, few subjects lit up Miller quite like his old boss. Hoover was "great." He was "sharp." He was "absolutely brilliant." He was "wonderful."

Miller proceeded to give me example after example. Among them, here's one that will throw liberals for a loop, clashing as it does with their ideological prejudices:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: coldwar; communistgoals; fbi; jedgarhoover; liberaltalkingpoint
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1 posted on 08/03/2013 7:07:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I hear that he was heartbroken he was has crush on his long time secretary when she got married that what I hear


2 posted on 08/03/2013 7:08:53 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: SevenofNine
Edward S. Miller, who knew Hoover quite well, says that Hoover was a heterosexual who had love affairs with beautiful women such as the glamorous actress Dorothy Lamour. Their romance, in fact, almost led to marriage. Hoover, however, was married to his job. "She dumped him because he was married to his job!"


3 posted on 08/03/2013 7:13:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
It's a real shame, she was so... NOT GUILTY

4 posted on 08/03/2013 7:16:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise

How could anyone be ‘gay’ before ‘gay’ was invented, huh?


5 posted on 08/03/2013 7:18:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

JEdger had WAY too much power. He was the NSA of his day.


6 posted on 08/03/2013 7:19:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Revolting cat!

RE: How could anyone be ‘gay’ before ‘gay’ was invented, huh?

From Wikipedia:

Gay is a term that primarily refers to a homosexual person or the trait of being homosexual.

The term was originally used to refer to feelings of being “carefree”, “happy”, or “bright and showy”.

The term’s use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century.

Here’s the reference:

Online Etymology dictionary.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gay


7 posted on 08/03/2013 7:21:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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and, since the media hates anyone who stands for law and order, over the years Hollywood has thrown in digs about him.
I remember an episode of Seinfeld when georges’ mother walks in on Kramer putting a man bra on georges’ father (only Kramer could pull something like that off), and Estelle says “he’s walking around like j edgar hoover”.


8 posted on 08/03/2013 7:24:17 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Revolting cat!
Hoover, ever concerned about enemies against him, would only venture into the public with a disguise. Here he is in court...


9 posted on 08/03/2013 7:24:47 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

I know the history of this term, heard it a long time ago among the homoes, used humourously, I might add, yet the invention, so to speak, of this term for everyday use occurred not more than 30 years ago. My point stands.


10 posted on 08/03/2013 7:25:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

OK, would the word — “homosexual” be more descriptive?


11 posted on 08/03/2013 7:26:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hoover may not have been a closet case or cross dresser but he certainly was not a ladies man, either. Is there really such a thing as an asexual guy? Perhaps. Another asexual guy becoming so close to another asexual guy like Clyde Tolson? If I were a betting man I’d put money on Hoover and Tolson being repressed homosexuals or romantically involved closet cases (and I’m not a communist).


12 posted on 08/03/2013 7:29:54 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you get spanked for changing the original title and violating the forum rules? The word ‘gay’, by the way, appears in the article once, and then in double quotes.


13 posted on 08/03/2013 7:31:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. Neo-Nazis and mob bosses also spread that myth.


14 posted on 08/03/2013 7:31:16 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A mean nasty communist plot to smear Hoover? I can see why the communists would have wanted to smear him; I also have a very difficult time writing off all the stories as total fabrications.


15 posted on 08/03/2013 7:33:14 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Revolting cat!

***...yet the invention, so to speak, of this term for everyday use occurred not more than 30 years ago.****

I remember seeing an old, old clip from some b&w Cary Grant movie in which he is asked why he is in a woman’s housecoat. He jumps and yells, “Ive suddenly gone GAY!”

The clip was from 60-70 years ago.


16 posted on 08/03/2013 7:33:24 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And you know very well that nobody outside of fag ridden Hollywood understood the implication!


17 posted on 08/03/2013 7:34:58 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately, most people (including conservatives) have swallowed the malicious bilge the Left has used against Hoover, just as they once did McCarthy.


18 posted on 08/03/2013 7:37:14 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I never could picture J Edgar Hoover in drag, but one rumor had it that he used to stand in front of a mirror and sing "Bye Bye Birdie", if this is him in the video, he did a really good job.
19 posted on 08/03/2013 7:38:05 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Revolting cat!

The term goes way back.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Year-Michael-Jean-Forrest/dp/B0007FOGLW#reader_B00CNWCCT0


20 posted on 08/03/2013 7:41:02 PM PDT by stormer
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