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James Madison Saw This Abusive Government Thing Coming
http://townhall.com/columnists/austinhill/2013/07/28/james-madison-saw-this-abusive-government-thing ^ | July 28, 2013 | Austin Hill

Posted on 07/28/2013 5:43:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: rlmorel
Hamilton wanted vigorous and effective government, but not big government. This is because big government would have required a high rate of taxation to support it, and that would have been bad for business.

Hamilton would have been willing to have his vigorous and effective government intervene on behalf of the commercial and speculative classes, i.e., business, but he would have been repulsed by direct government payments to people.

21 posted on 07/28/2013 12:55:15 PM PDT by Publius (And so, night falls on civilization.)
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To: Publius

Repulsed by direct gov’tm. payments to the people, naturally! It is antithetical to business principles.


22 posted on 07/28/2013 3:09:17 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Kaslin

Yes, but we’re going to have graphics till the end of time. Those plus links, lucky us!


23 posted on 07/28/2013 3:11:16 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Prospero

Thank you for writing that. I have often said that were it not for FR, I would be ignorant of mind and ignoble of heart.


24 posted on 07/28/2013 3:18:35 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: central_va

That type of resistance would be crushed in a week by those jets.


25 posted on 07/28/2013 3:56:00 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: wastedyears

Really? A standing Army, without desertions(of which they would be many perhaps 50%), of 500,000 will occupy 20+ states with 180 million people(mostly armed)? It is you that are the dreamer. Our Army while it does contain a few pocket of professionalism, is tiny and is mostly deployed overseas. A good thing looking at our current CIC.


26 posted on 07/28/2013 4:02:03 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Publius

Agreed. Hamilton has a bad name around here because he was a Federalist, but you and I are in agreement. I simply think that for the time, his advocacy of that was needed.

Like potato chips, though, they just didn’t know where to stop...:)


27 posted on 07/28/2013 4:19:28 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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28 posted on 07/28/2013 6:21:57 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: wastedyears
That type of resistance would be crushed in a week by those jets.

That depends on whether the pilots were willing to fire on Americans. Many, perhaps most, will not. And those who will are going to be at the mercy of those who will not on the ground. They will have fatal "accidents."

29 posted on 07/28/2013 8:16:36 PM PDT by Steve0113 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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To: Kaslin

I just went round and round with a young man at the bank this week. These young folks don’t know what America was like before the crooks got control.

I educated him on how I bought a house for 1/3 of what his cost and paid 12% mortgage interest. The money I borrowed was saved by a senior citizen who was living on the interest I was paying.

These young folks don’t know the difference. They are being hired and trained to do the will of these crooks. Their education has been dumbed down and they aren’t taught to think for themselves.

I take every opportunity to let the young people know how it used to be and how it should still be.

We need to start small and organize in our communities and discuss what is happening and why. Then we need to take steps to make it happen right where we are like Sarah Palin suggested. It will spread. The ballot box has been hijacked. We can’t rely on it now.

My congressman has been there since he left college and is now retirement age. This should have never been allowed to happen. It must stop.


30 posted on 07/28/2013 8:20:45 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: central_va

Air power, AWACS, armor, artillery, snipers that practice hours every day, ability to track and shut down all communications and transportation, armed drones, AC-130 Spooky gunship, new automatic weapons, grenades of all sorts...

Reserves, National Guard, various alphabet agencies, state police, city police, UN, foreign militaries...


31 posted on 07/28/2013 8:36:25 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: Steve1789

They’ll look at it as “servicing targets.” Doesn’t matter if they’re veterans. Look at what happened to the Bonus Army. Chased by their own brothers in arms, and killed in some cases.

They’re trained to follow orders. As I’ve said before, the term “illegal order” will be twisted beyond recognition. Those that have serviced targets before won’t see it any different, even if they’re from the same country, state, or town.


32 posted on 07/28/2013 8:40:11 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: wjcsux
The so called racist white guys saw this day coming.

Anybody who hated The Won [Again] two hundred years before he was born MUST be racist!

33 posted on 07/28/2013 8:42:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: wastedyears
Clearly math is not your strong suit. How many troops does it take to occupy a state? 500,000 is not enough troops to occupy ONE State let alone 20 or more. You are not stupid, do the math. Divide 500,000 by every county in the South and mid west. You come up with about 100 troops/county. To make matters worse, soldiers are on 8 hour shifts, 8 hours patrol, 8 hours sleep 8 hours other. Now take into account a combat division is really 3 regiments of about 4000 with 6000 support. So now that 100 guys becomes 40. But each shift would be 13 about a squad! LOL.

Look at Vietnam and Iraq, we never did really have control.....Afghan either. Now try to occupy a US State in rebellion of ex military and highly motivated patriots. The Army doesn't stand a chance.

34 posted on 07/29/2013 4:50:14 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jacquerie

“Very little time remains to save our republic. It is way beyond time for an Article V amendment convention.”

Not a good idea, my FRiend. Given that ‘the masses’ have become ‘them asses’ thanks to four generations of commie educators, such a conventio would hardly create anything even vaguely approaching the wisdon of teh present Constitution.

Perhaps it may be time to simply call for a total reset of governments back to teh bounds defined in the Constitution.

How one deals with the demands of the “GibsMeDat” part of America is an issue.

However, as the “GibsMeDat”s are essentially thieves using government to steal for them, there may be no other solution than cutting all such government transfers and dealing with any violence that may spill out of their Urban Feral kraals.

No faction is worth the Republic.


35 posted on 07/29/2013 9:06:15 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: GladesGuru
Fear Not An Article V Amendment Convention.
36 posted on 07/29/2013 9:38:12 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Jacquerie

“Fear Not An Article V Amendment Convention.”

No offense meant, but circular logic is not responsive to what I posted.


37 posted on 07/29/2013 10:03:15 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: GladesGuru

It helps to read beyond titles. Try it.


38 posted on 07/29/2013 10:22:51 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Publius

Thanks for the ping.


39 posted on 07/29/2013 11:01:16 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Jacquerie

“It helps to read beyond titles. Try it.”

Looks like the famous “naked circularity” ......

On the other hand, “Blessed are those who go round in circles, for they shall be known as ‘wheels’.”

If a valid reason for changing the Constitution has been penned, it should be posted here on FR.

Looks off in distance . . . . .


40 posted on 07/29/2013 2:16:42 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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