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Despite ambitious goals, millions would be left out of immigration deal
Washington Post ^ | July 26, 2013 | David Nakamura

Posted on 07/27/2013 10:41:08 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

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But even if the Senate legislation favored by Obama became law tomorrow, more than one in four illegal immigrants would remain undocumented and outside the system, according to federal estimates.

That gap worries many reform proponents, who fear that the system would leave millions living in the shadows without legal protection. They would also be subject to harsher workplace requirements and enforcement measures included in the plan.

“We are very disappointed with that number because we really want to reform the system once and for all and make sure we legalize all people who are not committing crimes,” said Gustavo Torres, executive director of CASA of Maryland, an advocacy organization.

The bipartisan legislation that passed the Senate last month would set up a 13-year process toward citizenship for undocumented immigrants, including mandatory fines and other requirements. The Congressional Budget Office projected that 8 million immigrants would start the process of attempting to gain citizenship under the plan, but an additional 3.5 million would not qualify or would decide not to pursue it.

There is also no guarantee that those who begin the process will reach the end goal of becoming naturalized. The Social Security Administration estimates that 400,000 of those who gain provisional status would drop out within six years because they would not meet the financial requirements.

The question of how many immigrants attain citizenship could be crucial to the success of an overhaul. When President Ronald Reagan signed the 1986 immigration bill, about half of the nation’s 5 million undocumented immigrants at the time gained legal status. The other half did not — becoming the base for the current undocumented population.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty
They haven't even passed the dream act, and already bitchin' about getting the rest in.

If the republican house passes any of this crap, I'm done with the whole system. 44 years a reliable voter for them has ended. No way am I ever voting again.

1 posted on 07/27/2013 10:41:08 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

You believe this? Amnesty 2 hasn’t even been finalized or passed and they are already setting the stage for Amnesty 3 in 2033.


2 posted on 07/27/2013 10:43:07 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Second Amendment First

Vote but vote 3rd party...it will help the good guys


3 posted on 07/27/2013 10:43:24 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Second Amendment First

The good knews is illegal immigrants to the US are mainly catholic christians. Imagine what it would be having all the muzzi illegals like they have all over europe.


4 posted on 07/27/2013 10:45:48 AM PDT by SgtBilko
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To: SgtBilko

If we pass these laws, you can bet the Muzzies will start clamoring to let more Muzzies in.


5 posted on 07/27/2013 10:47:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Second Amendment First

Snake-bit before it’s even been rammed through, like Obamacare.


6 posted on 07/27/2013 10:58:34 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Second Amendment First
There is also no guarantee that those who begin the process will reach the end goal of becoming naturalized. The Social Security Administration estimates that 400,000 of those who gain provisional status would drop out within six years because they would not meet the financial requirements.

Does anyone think someone will be deported who doesn't meet the financial requirements? This is joke.

The question of how many immigrants attain citizenship could be crucial to the success of an overhaul. When President Ronald Reagan signed the 1986 immigration bill, about half of the nation’s 5 million undocumented immigrants at the time gained legal status. The other half did not — becoming the base for the current undocumented population.

In order to qualify for the 1986 amnesty you had to be here for five years. As far as those not participating, it no doubt includes at least 2 million criminal aliens--the number used by McCain in 2007. He said at the time that they would be deported immediately after his amnesty passed.

7 posted on 07/27/2013 11:41:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Second Amendment First

I would vote for the most viable conservatives I could find. Would also send money to those outside my ability to vote in their election.

For example Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin are still Republicans even though despised by the establishment. The current abysmal situation would not keep me from supporting either of those two and a handful of others. And in primary races I would support those who are tea party trying to oust weakling Republicans currently in office.

Third party votes that deny support to those like Palin and Cruz and any others like them, are not good votes, imv.

If there’s nobody left to support among Republicans, for Senate, House, President, state offices etc, then third party votes make more sense because there would be nothing left to lose.

If conservatives would unite instead of splitting among candidates, we are the majority of the Republican party and we could make a difference. In states where Democrats can vote in Republican primaries there is an obvious problem and I’m not able to address that, but that should STOP.


8 posted on 07/27/2013 11:47:31 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Second Amendment First

The “college educated” morons believe that they can end global poverty by bring everyone here. Geeesh! Idiots!


9 posted on 07/27/2013 12:18:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty. The DemocRATS' payback for the 2010 elections.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Global poverty is not the target. The target, since we completely abandoned our traditional approach to immigration in 1965, has been to undermine the very concept of a nation. They are deliberately seeking to bring in people who do not reflect our traditional culture. It is a humanist/collectivist assault on the culture of our Founders. The immigrants are simply being used as pawns.

For a discussion of actual immigration issues: Immigration & The American Future.

William Flax

10 posted on 07/27/2013 12:25:11 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
You believe this? Amnesty 2 hasn’t even been finalized or passed and they are already setting the stage for Amnesty 3 in 2033.

This Psyops/propaganda for the current bill. We are now supposed to call our legislators and demand they fix the problem.

The U.S. is just about done. Trying to figure out how my children survive the coming white pogroms.

11 posted on 07/27/2013 12:50:37 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Second Amendment First
That wouldn't be fair.  Let's leave them all out, to avoid that.





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12 posted on 07/27/2013 12:57:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Second Amendment First

You mean to tell me that all baby, child, woman, grandma illegal alien rapists wouldn’t automatically be give instant citizenship! That’s racist and discriminatory! Maybe that can be fixed by executive order from AkA Barry!


13 posted on 07/27/2013 1:01:02 PM PDT by Southern by Grace
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