Posted on 07/26/2013 10:55:04 AM PDT by Windflier
I received this in email this morning from the North Texas branch of The Common Sense Citizens Network:
Fellow Patriots:
A group of approximately 15 constituents met on the morning of July 24th in Dallas with Mr. Taylor Bledsoe, district staffer for Congressman Pete Sessions (TX CD 32) to discuss immigration. A summary of the meeting is included below.
Many of the questions and comments directed to Mr. Bledsoe related to the legislative process within the House. In general, there was a sentiment that Rep. Sessions has not been a leader on pushing border security, that there is little, if any, trust of Rep. Sessions on this issue, and there is a concern that the House could easily be swept up in the Gang of Eight plan, either unwittingly or by design.
Key take-aways:
Rep. Sessions is the Chairman of the House Rules Committee and will determine what immigration bills, if any, are considered by the House.
As Rules Chair, Rep. Sessions is planning to allow one or more immigration bill(s) in the House.
Rep. Sessions does not expect House immigration bill(s) to go to conference to be merged with Senate immigration legislation, but could not guarantee that would not happen. That will primarily be up to Speaker Boehner, but Rep. Sessions will have input.
Rep. Sessions' underlying rationale, if any, for passing House immigration bill(s) at this time was not particularly clear to the constituents.
Generally speaking, the constituents were not at all in favor of Rep. Sessions taking his cues from the Gang of Eight, did not see any logical rationale for the proposed course of action, and wished to warn Rep. Sessions of the huge risk being taken by passing a House bill.
At the close of the meeting, the constituents unanimously urged Rep. Sessions to not allow any immigration bill to proceed through the House in this environment.
Rep. Sessions' Position*:
Mr. Bledsoe informed the constituents that Rep. Sessions would be placing a House immigration bill on the calendar sometime after the August recess. Bledsoe explained that he did not believe the House will pass the Gang of Eight bill, or any other single comprehensive immigration reform bill. Instead, he expects a series of bills, each directed to various aspects of immigration, specifically including interior enforcement. He was not sure whether there will be a bill specifically directed to border security.
With respect to the rationale for a House immigration bill, Bledsoe explained that the Obama Administration has presented legal justifications for all the laws that it has ignored. Thus, there is a need to revise the existing law to remove the Obama Administration's legal justifications. He also suggested it was necessary to clearly instruct the Obama Administration to follow and enforce the law.
Mr. Bledsoe also explained that the House leadership is hopeful that the Senate will take up an interior enforcement bill if prodded, and Rep. Sessions believes passing a bill in the House would be at least somewhat likely to spur the Senate to take action on interior enforcement, specifically.
With respect to any risk that a House immigration bill would go to conference and be merged with the Gang of Eight bill, Bledsoe noted that a House bill won't be sent to conference without the assent of John Boehner and the House Republican leadership. The fact that a bill is passed in the House doesn't necessarily mean that it will go to conference with the Senate's Gang of Eight Bill.
Although Rep. Sessions won't make the unilateral decision on whether a House immigration bill goes to conference with the Gang of Eight Bill, he will have input as a member of House leadership.
In response to questions raised about Sessions' position on "amnesty," Bledsoe stated that Pete Sessions does not support "amnesty" for illegals. As to "legalization of illegals" and a "pathway to citizenship for illegals," however, Rep. Sessions' position is still not 100% clear. There was not an explanation of the difference, if any, between "a path to citizenship for illegals" and "amnesty for illegals."
Constituents' Comments and Questions:
Constituent Del Parker of North Dallas expressed the concern that the Gang of Eight bill may very well be a smokescreen or diversionary tactic. He believes that NO House bill would be appropriate at this time. In his view, Congress is not to be trusted to craft any House bill on amnesty or immigration, especially when it would almost certainly be ignored or rewritten by the Senate. In his opinion, the only way to prevent a dangerous amnesty bill from proceeding through the system is for Rep. Sessions, as Chair of the House Rules Committee, to kill any immigration or amnesty bill in the House.
Katrina Pierson of Garland followed up on remarks made by Rep. Sessions at the Garland-Wylie-Sachse Town Hall that Rep. Sessions supports legalization of illegal aliens so long as there is a background check of some sort performed. Ms. Pierson also questioned the rationale for new laws at this time, given that we already have immigration laws on the books. Border security and interior enforcement, in particular, are already the law of the land. She asked why we need a new bill to tell the government to enforce the laws that have already been passed. If that would be the sole content of a House bill, what is the point of of passing a House immigration bill at all?
Ms. Pierson expressed that there is a feeling that the House GOP leadership is making all its decisions based on what the Democrat-controlled Senate is doing or is likely to do. She expressed skepticism that a Democrat-controlled Senate to take up a border security or interior enforcement bill. She noted that the House GOP has passed many bills to repeal Obamacare, but Harry Reid doesn't even give the bills a vote. Thus, it is highly unlikely that an interior enforcement bill would be considered by the Senate. From her perspective, the House strategy appears to be a collection of more political games. She also expressed concern that if the House passes an immigration bill, there is a serious opportunity for the bill to go to conference with the Gang of Eight Bill or something similar and come out as a horrible amnesty plan.
Ms. Pierson noted that, given the near complete absence of any likelihood of any good outcome, and a significant likelihood of a very bad outcome, many people in Rep. Sessions' district, including herself, don't want any House immigration bill at all passed at this time in this environment.
Bill Ames of North Dallas followed up on the question of the pathway to citizenship. He explained that constituents aren't objecting to current immigration laws and pathways to citizenship on the books. They are objecting to new pathways to citizenship for illegals, which are likely to be hidden in the bill in such a way that we don't even learn about them until it's too late. Ames also expressed his opinion that the Gang of Eight legislators and immigration lawyers will begin working to reduce the 13-year timeline as soon as the pathway is passed into law.
Quique "Q" Coleman asked why the House Republicans are even discussing this issue at this time, when there are so many other pressing issues. His position is "N.A.D.A. - No Amnesty. Defend America."
Liz Miller of North Dallas noted that the polls show that immigration is far down the list of issues people care about right now. There is no public support for doing something on immigration right now.
Ken Emanuelson of North Dallas also expressed puzzlement as to the rationale for a new immigration bill. If the bill is simply to reiterate prior immigration law, why is there any reason to think the Obama Administration won't simply ignore this law, in the same way it ignores so many others? Lawyers are trained to find justifications, loopholes and rationalizations in the law. Revising the law with additional or different language will have no long-term effect. The Obama Administration will simply find new justifications and rationalizations for ignoring the law.
There is no good argument for the House Republicans to pass an immigration bill now. Nothing good can come of this. The Republicans scarcely have control of the House, and the Democrats control the Senate and the White House. Why is it the Republicans feel like they have to go along and pass whatever it is Obama and the Senate Democrats decide the Republicans need to do? Why is the answer not simply, "No, thanks"? This is not the right environment for Republicans to pass this kind of bill.
Summary:
The key question, asked by numerous attendees, was this:
what plan, if any, do you have for preventing a House immigration bill from being conflated with the Gang of Eight bill or a similarly bad Senate bill in conference and passed into law? There was no clear answer provided to this key question, despite the question being asked in various ways multiple times.
At no point was a reasonable explanation provided as to why passage of a House immigration bill would be an advisable course of action for the House Republicans at this time. From this, it would seem reasonable to conclude that Rep. Sessions' staff either did not have a logical rationale for proceeding this way, or had some rationale they were unwilling to disclose.
At the close of the meeting, Mr. Bledsoe asked if all the constituents in attendance agreed with the sentiment expressed by Katrina Pierson and others that there should be no House immigration bill advanced at this time.
The constituents unanimously agreed with that position with no dissent, and Mr. Bledsoe agreed to forward that message to Rep. Sessions.
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* - Rep. Sessions' position has been summarized based on the message as understood by the constituents on July 24. This summary is being provided to Rep. Sessions' staff and will be edited if it is found to contain inaccuracies.
Because amnesty is something that both the democrats and republicans, and most importantly, their lobbyists, can agree upon. One side wants an endless supply of cheap labor to drive the wage scale down, and the other side wants a block of loyal voters to guarantee a permament one party rule. It’s a win-win for any aspiring fascist-communist government.
Follow the money.
I happen to know one of his neighbors that is close to him. May give him a call to see what’s up with that...
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It’s because Sessions is a squishy progressive, bribed by his cheap labor lobbying controllers.
I think Bonehead wants amnesty and Sessions will give him what he wants apparently.
The RNC and DNC are the same thing besides the veneer at the top it seems to me.
Does your congressman support child rape and grandma rape by dreamers? Call it and ask. Search illegal alien’s rape and see how many rapes they commit. Thank your congressman profusely for supporting illegal alien’s who rape women and children! Tell them you will be in their district screaming from the hilltops. My congressman supports illegal alien rapists!!
Pity that it's taken most of us so long to figure out that the Dems and Repukes are part of an unholy alliance to destroy what's left of our once great country.
The established civil systems put in place by our forebears are now non-existent for all practical purposes. The first three words of the US Constitution are, "We the people", but the people no longer have a seat at the table. The whole arena of politics is an enormous sham, which we have no say in, or control over.
"Vote them out" ? Don't make me laugh. We need a second revolution.
If Pubs and greedy new capitalists think illegals will not come with an army of leftist lawyers and Unions to drive up wages, I got them a Bridge for sale.
Once they surrender the base, who will help them when they cry uncle at the hands of communists? That’s right, if they depend now on them despite the Tparty, they surely will be cut in pieces once the country turns liberal blue.
Drink the poison blue pill and die, RINO PuBs
I simply don’t believe Sessions would be involved in any amnesty plans whatsoever.
Who needs Hitler’s Suedeten land invasion claim when Sessions gives Mexico now a full right of invasion when the Mexican workers/ethny will complains against gringos and yankees to the UN?
Balkan-Suedeten scenario...
Our tolerance for debt-based welfare to immigrants is equal to our tolerance for the debt that we are willing to pass onto our children and grandchildren.
Reduce our tolerance for debt-based Federal Programs, and our tolerance for immigration will also be reduced.
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Our Southern Border is under the control of Mexican Drug Gangs. An illegal attempt by AG Holder to challenge their grip failed with Fast and Furious.
Obama has allowed INS officials to increase the number of “got-aways” and to decrease the number of illegal alien invaders actually caught.
Gullible News outlets, such as The Wall Street Journal routinely run articles quoting Obamanation statistics that numbers of captured illegal alien invaders are down, and thus there is no such thing as the surge of illegal alien invaders from Mexico and other Southern Hemisphere Socialist Countries.
Most News outlets refuse to come to our Southern Border to document their obviously false assertions.
Most State Politicians cower when our sorry NINE SUPREMES dictate that the State has no authority to protect itself from illegal alien invaders.
As long as THE NINE SUPREMES have 4 Socialist Judges, there will always be a high risk that some gullible Judge from the Majority will cross over to the dark side and continue the destruction of our US Constitution as the signature accomplishment of the US Welfare State. Traitor John Roberts’ support of Obama’care’ is the most horrific example.
Thus, it is incumbent upon those of us who still value the US Constitution to oppose the dark side, what we now call Obamanation.
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The purpose of passing a Federal “reform” immigration bill this year is to allow illegal alien invaders from Mexico, and other Central and South American Socialist Countries, to vote for Socialist-Democrats and appeasing RINOs in the 2014 and 2016 USA National Elections for more debt-generating welfare to future illegal alien invaders to become future Socialist-Democrat voters.
These future Socialist-Democrat voters should be called “McCain-Rubio Democrats,” as no other Senators have done more to encourage gullible RINOs to appease and otherwise cave-in to debt-dependent Democrats than these two sorry RINO Senators.
Stand your ground, FReepers! Raise the Gadsden Battle Flag!
It is us against the gullible supporters of Obamanation!
For example:
While Rubio and his Eight Senate Gangsters put out political smoke and mirrors to “get a bill passed this year,” nothing they have said will change the basic problem of aliens illegally invading the USA.
The Basic Problem: Illegal aliens invade the USA for Welfare and Wages.
Solutions that address the Basic Problem:
1.) End the Anchor Baby Law.
2.) End the Hospital Emergency Room No Payment Law (EMTALA).
3.) End ANY other Welfare to Aliens.
4.) Fine US employers $1,000 per day per employee who is an alien.
5.) Spend NO money on “securing the border.” It is a bottomless money pit.
6.) Spend money on Chainlink/ Concertina wire desert prisons for the EXISTING Federal Law for a mandatory 6 month imprisonment for repeat offenders who have invaded our Country more than once.
7.) Transfer Border Invasion Enforcement to the US National Guard in each State, and thus under the control of the Governor of each State. The less Federal involvement, the better.
8.) Repeal all State and Federal Laws that prohibit voter officials and Police from requesting proof of US Citizenship for any reason what so ever.
9.) Be as hostile to all illegal alien invaders as we should be to all Federal politicians and Federal Judges who vote for or support another Ted Kennedy-style amnesty bill with no significant Federal enforcement.
Contact your local TEA Party, and plan to kick the sorry RINOs and even sorrier Democrats out of Congress in 2014!
It is all about your values and the money FReepers, YOUR values and YOUR tax money.
Lately there is a huge wind of stupid air, however, and intellectualy stubborn and cowardly politicians “don’t know much abut history” and seem to care as much as future Mayor of NYC Weiner.
Yep, our tax backed FDIC insuring these investments from hell with huge risks and wars at stake, kind of cool, banks and politicians get to pass the free risk to our blood.
Then why hasn't Sessions come out and stated in no uncertain terms that NO immigration bill will be referred out of his committee?
Why couldn't his spokesman offer a single shred of proof that Pete Sessions is going to fight a back door amnesty bill with every fiber of his being?
Any congress critter who isn't categorically stating their firm opposition to an amnesty bill, is firmly behind that very thing, and is preparing to sell us out in the dead of night.
The 'system' is FUBAR, my friend. Only a faint illusion of our established civil processes remains.
If we want this country back, we're going to have to take it like the Founders did.
Heller from Nevada voted YES on the immigration bill in the Senate. I immediately called his office and told him there is NOTHING he could EVER do to get my vote again. I’m also sharing this with Tea Party members.
Same with Joe Heck. He voted for the NSA being able to continue spying on private citizens.
I think I may have just voted for the last time in my life in the last election! I’ve become totally confused on who the RINOs are!
There's only one representative I completely trust in Washington, and that's my Senator, Ted Cruz. My House rep, Kenny Marchant is alright too, but I'm afraid we're really down to just a handful of honest patriots.
Those few stalwart souls are fighting an evil leviathan which has almost unlimited resources and power. The only power that can match it, are the American people themselves. Too bad they're all sitting at home wondering who's going to fight for them.
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