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No Comment... I'd be banned for life if I said what I'm thinking about our so-called "representatives" in "FREAKING" Washington DC who are letting this CRAP happen...
1 posted on 07/25/2013 3:49:38 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

I will say it: folk off


2 posted on 07/25/2013 3:50:40 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Errant

Oh hell NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 07/25/2013 3:51:13 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Errant

So they can pull child porn down into anybody’s account and then prosecute them. Proving the government did it, would be next to impossible.

Of course, if they wanted to do that, it would probably be hard to stop them password or not.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 3:52:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Any company I do business with turns my pass word over to the FEDS will lose my business.........FOREVER!


5 posted on 07/25/2013 3:52:02 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Errant

Go to biometrics on the local host. Nothing stored on the remote server.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 3:54:09 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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But a [Google] spokesperson said the company has "never" turned over a user's encrypted password.

So they decrypt it first?

7 posted on 07/25/2013 3:56:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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Idiots,

Passwords are not stored in a modern system. A one way cryptographic hash is stored instead. In reality, passwords are not checked directly. They are run through a complex hashing program that CAN NOT BE REVERSED and the output of the hash is stored.

To verify a password, the submitted password is put through the same hash and the output is compared to the stored hash. If they match then the proper password has been submitted.


8 posted on 07/25/2013 3:56:36 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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Ping.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 3:57:54 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Errant

This proves the Feds are even stupider than I thought. Any good system does not store passwords, it stores a hash of the password. You can give the hashed value to anyone and it does not give them access. When you enter your password, that value is encrypted and then compared to the hash value.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 3:59:00 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Errant

Hmmmm, with your password, a government agent could use your account to establish a search history of any sort they may so desire.

In court they could make you look like any sort of monster that fits a narrative.


13 posted on 07/25/2013 3:59:34 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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If the evil thug in our White House and his supporters want to do this lawfully, they need individual warrants, based “upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized”.

Instead, the general strategy for these data and just about everything else has been to collect everything on everyone and sort through our lives at leisure. The far left very obviously don’t care about freedom, the law, or the Constitution, so it comes down to just how brutal their forces are willing to get and just how firm decent people are willing to be in resisting tyranny.


16 posted on 07/25/2013 4:02:54 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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19 posted on 07/25/2013 4:03:33 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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Considering the feral government’s attitude toward our privacy, I wonder why it’s so concerned about its privacy. Is it trying to hide things?


20 posted on 07/25/2013 4:04:19 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Errant

More and more it looks like time to water the tree of liberty.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 4:06:21 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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Given the revelations about the NSA and the Government's incursions into our privacy on a daily basis - it is rapidly becoming time for all right-thinking American's who are concerned about their privacy, their freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and freedom from unrestrained search and seizure (which is NOT limited to physical property!) to start planning on removing their Facebook, Google, and Webmail based accounts from the internet.

In short: The Federal Government is using your internet access to spy on you, collect information about you and PROFILE you. Develop your exit plan now - that means deleting accounts, deleting Facebook history, etc.. and learning to use the internet ANONYMOUSLY.

TOR. Accessing the Internet using public WiFi Access on an untraceable device. The capabilities are there, google is your friend.

30 posted on 07/25/2013 4:12:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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No Comment... I'd be banned for life if I said what I'm thinking about our so-called "representatives" in "FREAKING" Washington DC who are letting this CRAP happen.

If I said what I was thinking at this very moment (oh hell ... what I'm thinking most of the time!) the least of my worries would be being banned from FR.

31 posted on 07/25/2013 4:12:57 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Errant

This is another reason the cloud should not be used for personal storage.

It’s your data. Don’t you want to control it?


36 posted on 07/25/2013 4:20:05 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies...

This brings to mind two questions:

1. What part of "the U.S. Government?"

2. Which, specifically, "major Internet companies?"

Vague reporting like that drives me crazy.

39 posted on 07/25/2013 4:23:03 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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I’m going to have to go through and change my passwords for every account in the next few days.

They’re not the same right now, but this is getting so ridiculous, that I’m going to be changing all my passwords on a regular basis.

This is so annoying!


53 posted on 07/25/2013 5:05:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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56 posted on 07/25/2013 5:08:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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