Posted on 07/21/2013 5:34:04 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Since Canadian born Ted Cruz has emerged on the scene in Washington as a future presidential candidate for 2016, attention has turned to whether he is Constitutionally eligible for Article 2 Section 1, the presidential qualification clause. This is what we know. Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Many say that disqualifies him to be eligible for the presidency. Enter former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm. She was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. I came across an interview she did with Fox News's Chris Wallace in February of 2010. During the interview Wallace brought up the fact that since she was born in Canada, she wasn't eligible to be president. Here is the transcript:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/21/transcript-fox-news-sunday-interview-future-gop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528Text+-+Politics%2529
"GRANHOLM: No, I’m totally focused this year on creating every single job I can until the last moment. December 31st at midnight is when I’ll stop. So I have no idea what I’m going to do next, but I’m not going to run for president. I can tell you that.
WALLACE: Yes, that’s true. We should point out Governor Granholm is a Canadian and cannot run for president.
GRANHOLM: I’m American. I’ve got dual citizenship.”
With that said, I went to the biography of Jennifer Granholm and found that she was born to one American citizen and is indeed a dual Citizen who became 'NATURALIZED' as a U.S. Citizen in 1980 at the age of 21. Now this raises a question. How can a naturalized U.S. Citizen become president of the United States?
Continued below.
You may be correct. But I have a reservation that it is the only criterion. I am not up to speed on modern citizenship laws. But if your full USA parents are traveling through a foreign country when you are born for example, then the citizenship laws of that foreign country may complicate your citizenship status in the USA.
You are still talking about being a Citizen. We are talking about being a natural born Citizen. Big difference when it pertains to being eligible for the presidency.
No, thank you, I think I’ll expound on my remark.
Any ‘FR’eeper bothering with birtherism vis-a-vis Ted Cruz is a RAT OPERATIVE.
“nationalized”?
Cruz is by law, 8 U.S.C. § 1401(g), a citizen at birth.
Article II demands a citizen at the time of adoption of the Constitution, thereafter only a natural born citizen can be President.
Agreed.
Note the join dates of these folks who are huffing and puffing about Cruz.
Valerie Jarrett is sending out the Flying Monkeys early in the cycle.
Don't fall for it, FRiends.
He officially left the party in 1962.
I see. Perhaps then when you’ve sobered up.
“Any ‘FR’eeper bothering with birtherism vis-a-vis Ted Cruz is a RAT OPERATIVE”
Wouldn’t you want Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution to be not subverted? Do you think Obama is eligible to be president? Please answer both questions.
Ok.
How did he get that way?
I will start with the proposition that if the primary were today, Ted Cruz would be my first choice.
That said--
Under what citizenship statute did he become a citizen at all? When was his mother born? How long had she been domiciled in the US prior to the date of birth and subsequent to the applicable statutory age requirement to confer citizenship on an out of country birth to a non-citizen father? (Reading the effective date footnotes to the Enacted Bill carefully because the changes in the periods are applicable to individuals born after a specific date.)
Recognizing that statute is subject to a legitimate Constitutional challenge (because it is a mother statute under circumstances where a father citizen's child would not be a citizen).
Or if he flunks citizenship under the citizenship statute, when was he naturalized (so as to meet the citizenship statute to hold the office of US Senator)?
As to Article II, Sec. 1, the best underlying authorities subscribe almost universally to the proposition that a person must be born within the geographical confines of the several states in order to be a Natural Born Citizen and eligible to hold the office of President.
Before you get to Article II Sec. 1, you need to think maybe he was a citizen at birth at all.
How bout the RATS bring their case against Cruz, opening themselves up to discovery on zero’s NBC status? Oh, wait, we don’t have standing, and RATS ain’t gonna have standing.
I HOPE they get standing. Then WE get standing.
Bring it, RATS.
Naturalization is a process by which a foreigner come to the United States as a legal immigrant and follows a process to earn his/her citizenship. Citizenship can also be derived in some situations by the children of those who have been naturalized.
It is, but no one knows what it is. No one will know until it is litigated.
He was born where his father was serving in the Navy. There have been long standing laws that the children of servicemen overseas are immediately considered citizens. It does require filing paperwork with the department of State to record the birth, but it is automatic. Another situation with the same rules was for children born to missionaries. Probably wouldn’t see that law passed these days.
And since it will never be litigated as no one has standing, as proved time and time again...
Walker/Cruz ‘16!
That is not what I asked you. Let’s try it one more time reaaaal Sloooow:
Wouldn’t you want Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution to be not subverted? Do you think Obama is eligible to be president? Please answer both questions.
Except 8 U.S.C. 1401 (g) isn’t about the process of naturalization. It describes the criteria for children that are U.S. citizens at birth.
Condescending misspelled posts by a boot with less than 6 months on this site aren't going to get you too far, Skippy.
Go back to scrubbing the DNC's toilets. You're not changing any minds here.
According to every judge including SCOTUS who has been presented with POSHITUS' lack of documentation, NBC is ambiguous, not settled law, and if it's sauce for your goose, it's sauce for my gander.
Nobody has any standing, so anybody can run for POTUS.
The tables have turned, indeed. Now it's a last-stand fight for the Republic. You gonna let a few ignored laws stand in the way of electing a Reaganite Conservative?
“opening themselves up to discovery on zero’s NBC status”
You jest. My first post on FR concerned Obama’s ineligibility. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2849842/posts?page=77#77
Do you dispute either fact or law cited?
But what it doesn’t mention anywhere is the term ‘natural born Citizen’.
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