Posted on 07/21/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin
Sen. Ted Cruz rejected questions Sunday over his eligibility to be president, saying that although he was born in Canada the facts are clear that hes a U.S. citizen. My mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. Shes a U.S. citizen, so Im a U.S. citizen by birth, Cruz told ABC. Im not going to engage in a legal debate. The Texas senator was born in Calgary, where his mother and father were working in the oil business. His father, Rafael Cruz, left Cuba in the 1950s to study at the University of Texas and subsequently became a naturalized citizen.
President Obama has been hounded by critics who contend he was born outside the U.S. and, therefore, ineligible to win the White House. Obama was born in Hawaii. But some Democratic critics have taken the same charge against Obama by so-called birthers and turned it against Cruz. The Supreme Court has not definitively ruled on presidential eligibility requirements. But a congressional study concludes that the constitutional requirement that a president be a natural born citizen includes those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.
I can tell you where I was born and who my parents were. And then as a legal matter, others can worry about that. Im not going to engage, Cruz said in the interview with This Week on ABC.
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Following the USC is for fools. It’s a free for all now. So let Cruz run, what difference does it make?
Because a naturalized citizen is made a citizen by the laws of Man, which is by statute or edict.
This is a citizen AT birth.
A NATURAL born citizen is made such by the Laws of Nature. It is inherited by blood, so the citizenship of the child follows the citizenship of the NATURAL parents.
This is a citizen BY birth.
Ted Cruz is not a natural-born citizen.
any one know who Karl Rove is running for press?
This simply isn't true.
Generally speaking, people who believe it takes both have "educated" themselves only with the writings of cranks and quacks.
Those who have studied the meaning of natural born citizen in our history and law don't think that way.
There's not a single major legal scholar in the entire country, or a single significant conservative legal foundation, who makes that claim.
Not one.
Was Cruz born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934?
Obama’s father was something of a Kenyan elite, attending university here as part of an exchange program. It could be claimed that as such he was a representative of Kenya, strike one, did he ever claim diplomatic immunity in any way? He wasn't even a resident alien, strike two, with no desire to even remain here let alone become a citizen.
Cruz’ father was in a position tantamount to statelessness at the time Ted Cruz was born, but had resided in the United States, did return there, did reside there, and did eventually became a US citizen.
Sovereignty is the crux of the matter, with no jurisdictional claims of any foreign sovereignty allowed under the Constitution, as far as those who would be President are concerned.
“He said that because he is a US citizen by birth, and not by naturalization, he is a legally and Constitutionally a natural born citizen and eligible to be President.”
Well, well, well, if it isn’t our Fogbow and Dr. Conspiracy disciple who has arrived to obfuscate historical facts about the true meaning of a natural born citizen, born to two U.S. Citizen parents to guarantee full allegiance to the United States of America. Well Jeff, no Cruz did not say that to mean he was eligible.
Jeff also states: “Throughout our entire national history, “natural born citizen” has basically meant “citizen by birth”.
That is a bold face lie fogbower. If true, then what was the purpose of putting both ‘Natural Born Citizen’ and ‘Citizen’ in the presidential clause?
No person except a ‘natural born Citizen’, or a ‘Citizen’ of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Correct, everything I see above that Cruz said is true as he cut off the talk when he said, . Im not going to engage in a legal debate.
I think he stated it to bring debate to the issue because the term Natural Born Citizen does not like to be talked about by liberals or the media because it the focus will shift to Obama.
Cruz is smart to play it that way.
Because under the laws in effect when Churchill was born citizenship for children born overseas was granted through the father. Children with a foreign father and an American mother were not citizens.
Whether it be this citizenship issue or something else, we WILL demolish Ted Cruz as a Presidential candidate, just like we did Sarah Palin. The Democrats won’t need to destroy him, we will do it ourselves, as the Dems laugh at our stupidity. And then hello Jeb Bush, then hello President Hillary Clinton. I do believe we have become too stupid to survive. We deserve both Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz saying to hell with us all, we don’t deserve their leadership. And they would be right.
Smart? If he is playing that way it’s genius!
Not to quibble needlessly, but it was Palin who removed Palin from the competition in 2012.
Just saying.
Right up until the day she did, she was the presumed leader in the race for the GOP.
O’s Mother was not of age, but Cruz’s Mother was. How does that figure in?
It’s a shame how dead the Constitution is.
Conservatives who are now engaged with a ‘depends-on-what-the meaning-of ‘natural-born’,-is’ in order to get what they want, are really acting no different than the MarxoFascists who say the Constitution needs to ‘change with the times’.
Most of us understand the intent of requirement is that a presidential candidate MUST be born in the country to two American parents who are citizens. They were concerned about anyone having dual loyalties to ancestral nations being the Executive power.
Since Obama has set precedent that a candidate for President is qualified if their mob says they are, without any vetting or proofs beyond forged documents - then technically Putin could run for president.
Why did Congress need to make Winston Churchill an honorary US citizen if his mother was also an American?
Because under the laws in effect when Churchill was born citizenship for children born overseas was granted through the father. Children with a foreign father and an American mother were not citizens.
Which is proof right there that Cruz is not a NBC, since it was a statute change that granted him US citizenship at all.
Former Governor Jennifer Granholm of Michigan stated a few years back she was eligible for the presidency because she was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada and had dual Citizenship.
Canadian Granholm implies she can run for President: Ive got dual citizenship.
http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/canadian-granholm-implies-she-can-run-for-president-ive-got-dual-citizenship/
Michigan Democrat Governor Jennifer Granholm on Fox News Sunday responded to host Chris Wallaces clarification that as a Canadian, she is ineligible to run for president of the United States. Granholm came to the United States as a child of 4 years old.
Granholms response is indicative of the mistaken belief that because one of her parents is/was a US Citizen, shes eligible.
GRANHOLM: No, Im totally focused this year on creating every single job I can until the last moment. December 31st at midnight is when Ill stop. So I have no idea what Im going to do next, but Im not going to run for president. I can tell you that.
WALLACE: Yes, thats true. We should point out Governor Granholm is a Canadian and cannot run for president.
GRANHOLM: Im American. Ive got dual citizenship.
Yes, and Ted Cruz may remove himself as well just as Palin did when he sees the huge number of people on our side that he expects to have his back all fighting among themselves over whether he is eligible or not. As I said, we will deserve it if he says to hell with us.
Yep - Laws are for the little people, right?
NO it DOESN"T!
Not technically accurate. At the time Kenya did not exist, since it became a Commonwealth realm in 1963 and an independent republic in 1964. Senior was from British East Africa. As such not exactly a British subject or citizen, but kinda sorta.
I've never seen good documentation on what his exact citizenship status was at the time of Obama's birth.
IMO there is adequate documentation that Obama was born in HI. I understand some disagree, but it's not an argument I care to go around again on.
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