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Bay Bridge shock absorbers spring leak (Retrofit parts gone bad.. what else is new?)
SFGate.com ^ | 7/19/13 | Phillip Matier And Andrew Ross

Posted on 07/20/2013 9:04:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

While broken bolts on the new eastern span of the Bay Bridge are commanding everyone's attention, Caltrans has another problem on its hands - 96 seismic shock absorbers on the western span, some of which began leaking lubricant just three years after they were installed.

The estimated cost of the fix - $13 million.

And, like the brittle bolts on the eastern span, there are questions as to whether Caltrans ordered the right shocks - or dampers, as they are known - in the first place.

The dampers are located between the bridge towers just below the roadway, and are intended to dissipate energy from an earthquake and reduce stress on the structure.

Caltrans installed them in 2004 as part of a $670 million seismic upgrade of the western span and its approaches. Transportation officials expected them to last 20 years.

But by 2007, Caltrans officials say, a dozen of them began leaking.

The number has since grown to 37.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: absorbers; bay; bayarea; baybridge; bridge; caltrans; leak; oakland; sanfrancisco; shock; shockabsorbers; spring
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To: Bobibutu

Good Herb Island....as far as the best translation Ive been able to find goes.

is there any wonder that there’d be a Good Herb Island in San Francisco Bay?


21 posted on 07/20/2013 9:40:48 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: smokingfrog
"They should have gone to Midas."

Nah they didn't need the him on the project. But I am sure the price tag for the structure was close to what such a thing would actually cost, to make it out of gold.

22 posted on 07/20/2013 9:42:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lowest bidder?


23 posted on 07/20/2013 9:51:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Senator Diane Feinstein and her husband Dick Blum own steel mills in Shanghai.

That is why the democrats ordered the project be done by the Chinese. Its a win—win for the Blums and the communists.

Jerry Brown and former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger also in bed with the chicoms.

Brown is sending a lot of California taxpayer dollars to China as well, he is a penultimate jerk.


24 posted on 07/20/2013 9:54:29 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

And the MSM recently has been praising Brown for solving California’s budget problems, and turning around California. Go figure. A Democrat can do no wrong, apparently.


25 posted on 07/20/2013 9:57:59 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Bobibutu

Big Whoops! You’re right, of course. No coffee yet today. My Dad learned SONAR on TI back in WW II.


26 posted on 07/20/2013 9:58:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: hedgetrimmer

Different bridge and project, HT!


27 posted on 07/20/2013 9:59:32 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bboop

There are to bridges connected by an island. This story is about the section that is not being replace. It was built in the 1930’s and I am fairly sure we were not importing parts from china back then.


28 posted on 07/20/2013 10:04:03 AM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: Gaffer
Rubber and oil......

Naw, I'd guess they're getting excessive piston and cylinder wear from the unexpected daily temperature excursions. Those are big old shock absorbers.

29 posted on 07/20/2013 10:04:24 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: NormsRevenge

“They could have built a pontoon bridge for half the price and twice as reliable as the monster now standing (but no one knows for how long it will remain doing so).”

So tell us, how would you get up to the level of the tunnel on Yerba Buena Island the feeds onto the western span? That would be some ramp!


30 posted on 07/20/2013 10:09:40 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ole Okie

You got it right. From the article:

“The original specifications weren’t very clear,” said Bob Schneider, a project manager for Taylor Devices, the North Tonawanda, N.Y., company that supplied the dampers.

Schneider said Caltrans had understated how much bridge movement the dampers would be subjected to on a daily basis from wind, traffic vibrations and temperature changes.


31 posted on 07/20/2013 10:11:14 AM PDT by Jordo
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To: The Great RJ
“Parts probably made in China.”

Actually the bolts that are failing were made here in the US. What is vexing to me is that they had them “plated” to protect against corrosion when they knew ( or should have known) that plating causes “hydrogen embrittlement” which makes the bolts susceptible to brittle fracture.

32 posted on 07/20/2013 10:12:58 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You actually expect FReepers to read an article before commenting? WoW! The Hubris!


33 posted on 07/20/2013 10:33:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’m 4th gen Bay Area (Oakland). Stationed on TI 60-61. General electronics and RADAR.


34 posted on 07/20/2013 10:39:48 AM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: NormsRevenge
You would think they would use more thought in what they install on that bridge... After all, it is the longest bridge in the World!

It connects Little Africa all the way to Fairyland!

35 posted on 07/20/2013 10:44:48 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: NormsRevenge

The dampers are not on the new bridge. They are on the old suspension bridge between Yerba Buena island and San Francisco. They are intended to damp out the longitudinal “slamming” motion of one section of the bridge slamming into the neighboring sections during an earthquake. The intent is that when a jarring earthquake is done shaking the bridge, the sections come to a rapid stop rather than continuing to smash each other to smithereens.


36 posted on 07/20/2013 10:48:19 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Jordo

To deal with the extra wear and tear, Shuck says, Caltrans is “looking at replacing them in a way that the absorbers don’t have to engage during small movements.”
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Simple fix , elongated bolt holes, soft rubber mount bushings or a linkage system that allows for a few inches of movement... these shocks aren’t supposed to damp every .25” movement because of a breeze , that causes unnecessary wear in a concentrated area.


37 posted on 07/20/2013 10:53:19 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Mad Dawgg


38 posted on 07/20/2013 10:57:39 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: bboop
Weren’t the steel parts made in China?

It appears they did not take the continued traffic motion into consideration. Looks like the Devices are made in the USA and exported.

This appears to be nothing more than an "expensive" learning curve in technology adoption.
39 posted on 07/20/2013 11:06:53 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Ole Okie
daily temperature excursions

A vintage motorcycle I have sprung three separate seeping-type leaks when the temperature rose to 105F recently. 60 at night. Both rubber seals and metal-to-metal joints. Now at 95 leaking has stopped. Another bike experienced actual damage from excessive expansion of the metal frame (plastic gas tank split -- I have hogged out the mounting holes on the new tank).

40 posted on 07/20/2013 11:28:18 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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