Posted on 07/13/2013 12:19:30 PM PDT by rhema
Since shortly after its formation in 1988 the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has been fixated on deviant sexual behavior, culminating in the endorsement of homosexual pastors in 2009, homosexual marriage in 2011, and the election last month of their first homosexual bishop. Dr. James Nestingen, a highly respected scholar and retired ELCA seminary professor, recently concluded that promoting acceptance of deviant sexual behavior has actually replaced the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the primary mission and message of the ELCA.
Those within the ELCA demanding these radical changes asserted it is necessary for the ELCAs very survival. Supposedly, they simply must move into the 21st century on these issues, or otherwise they will be so out-of-step with modern society that it would mean the demise of their denomination. By the way, this is the same deceptive reasoning behind similar disturbing changes recently in the Boy Scouts of America.
However, the ELCA has now released some startling statistics that show the exact opposite has actually happened:
** When the ELCA was formed in 1988 they had 5.2 million members, but they are now down to only 4 million membersa staggering loss of over 1.2 million members, or 23% of their membership. They have also lost 1,500, or 13%, of their congregations, from approximately 11,000 to 9,500. As they celebrate this year the 25th anniversary of the ELCA, the fact is that during that time they have lost more members and congregations than make up many entire denominations!
** Of these losses, over 500,000 members and 1,000 congregations have left the ELCA in just the last four years, triggered by their endorsement of homosexuality beginning in 2009. This is actually the biggest denominational split in American church history, and is directly attributable to that decision.
** Another measure of the ELCAs decline is that in 1988, 2.1% of all Americans were members of the ELCA, but by 2011 that figure had fallen to 1.3%. The National Council of Churches reports that the ELCA has the sharpest rate of membership decline among all mainline Protestant denominations. Like Avis car rental which used to advertise Were Number 2But We Try Harder! the LCMS has historically always been the second-largest American Lutheran church body. However, at the ELCAs current rate of losing membersnearly 6% in 2010in just a decade the LCMS will surpass the ELCA as the largest American Lutheran church body, and a few decades after that the ELCA will cease to exist.
** Even among those congregations remaining in the ELCA average weekly worship attendance from 2003 to 2011 dropped 26%. The Lutheran ChurchMissouri Synod has 2.3 million members and the similarly conservative Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod has 300,000 members, yet even with our smaller combined membership of 2.6 million the LCMS and WELS have more people actually sitting in the pews each Sunday than the ELCA with 4 million members.
** Donations to the ELCA on the national level were $88 million in 2008 but plunged to only $40 million in 2011.
** Luther Seminary, the ELCAs largest seminary, located in St. Paul, Minnesota, announced that last year they had a $6 million operating deficit on a budget of $27 million. This was due largely to a recent sharp decline in donations to the seminary, reportedlyincluding a couple that for many years had given $1 million a year to the seminary but stopped their donations after the ELCAs endorsement of homosexuality. The seminary was forced to cancel many of its programs and lay off a third of the faculty and staff.
** Since the ELCAs endorsement of homosexuality, many other Lutheran church bodies around the world have severed their historic ties with the ELCA, and are instead seeking new relationships with the LCMS. This includes many of the largest and fastest-growing Lutheran church bodies in the world, such as the Lutherans in Ethiopia with over 6 million membersnearly as many as all American Lutheran church bodies combined. The center of world Lutheranism is shifting from Europe and America to Africa, Asia, and South America, and the LCMS is becoming the theological leader of these growing Lutheran church bodies. While the ELCA is becoming increasingly isolated in world Lutheranism, at our national convention this month the LCMS will enter into formal fellowship with the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Liberia, Siberian Evangelical Lutheran Church, and the Lutheran Church of Togo.
The Lord warns:
There will be false teachers among you, who will surreptitiously introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful, licentious ways. (2 Peter 2:1-2)
As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you formerly had when you lived in ignorance. Instead, just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, for it is written: You shall be holy, for I am holy. (1 Peter 1:14-15)
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. (Romans 12:2)
These passages show how misdirected and sinful it is to accommodate the churchs doctrine and practice to the worlds wicked ways. It is also foolish and futile.
On the one hand, the world will never be satisfieduntil Christians completely renounce their faith. More importantly, the Lord will never bless such unfaithfulness to Him and His Word.
We see from the sad example of whats happened to the ELCAthe biggest split in American church historythat whatever churches and other organizations such as the Boy Scouts imagine they will gain by giving in to the world is dwarfed by what they will surely lose.
Still rears it's ugly little head...
I'm (formerly) gay. Now I'm just an asexual or something.
I know ELCA formed from LCA, ALC and AELC. Why would churches from the LCA have been treated differently from the others, though?
>>but that doesnt mean that we think hes RIGHT about it.
1st, it’s pretty laughable that you, a “former Eunuch”, presume to speak for “we” the LCMS.
2nd, where’s the clarifying position paper?
Not on the LCMS.org site.
Put up the position paper so folks WORKING in the field don’t get blind-sided by the issue. Otherwise, buzz off ya flatulent gas bag.
Dismissal by Synod Council was part of the disassociation procedure in the constitutions of the LCA.
The ELCA's logic was that congregations which were part of that entity at its beginning would follow the procedures of their former church bodies.
The CNCL (Committee for a New Lutheran Church) really liked the most restrictive procedure used by the LCA; hence that became the procedure for congregations organized post 1988
The CNLC knew that imposing this on all congregations would never fly with the ALC and AELC, hence the double standard.
"You don't need to be consistent: You need to justify your inconsistencies".
Yes, yes, read something off of my page that I posted TEN YEARS AGO and use that as an argument against me. What next, rooting up a baby picture where I’m naked and claim that I’m obviously debauched because I’m flailing around without my drawers on?
Look, I’d rather not try to pick a fight with you. Despite all our arguments during the election season, I still think well of you.
I STILL do not understand why you’re so angry. And why you’ve gone and resorted to even more personal attacks than I leveled at you. Including a rather laughable attempt to bring up a ten-year-old self-description from my teenage self. I should probably change that, but if I did right now, you’d accuse me of having something to hide.
So, how about you try to explain to me how what Luther wrote in the distant past when he was angry has an effect on what the LCMS believes TODAY? Not what the Nazis did (I’ll see your Krystallnacht and raise you one Dietrich Bonhoeffer), but what your problem is NOW.
I have not met a single Lutheran who is an anti-Semite. I’ve not seen a single Missouri Synod church that reads TJaTL and teaches it like it’s the Gospel.
So what’s with you? You obviously hate the Missouri Synod for some reason OTHER than ‘no published paper.’
Thanks:
Why are you mad at ME?
It's on YOUR page NOW!
If you don't like the results of people reading it; then simply remove it!
You'd win. I'm old and feeble...
(BTW... I wasn't trying to fight, but to illustrate.)
In that case, I apologize. I do have a bad habit of shooting my ‘mouth’ off without thinking sometimes.
LCMS has failed to post a position paper on the subject:
Likely because it isn't important. They haven't published a position paper on whether the earth is flat or any number of other inane subjects, so if you have a point, make it.
One thing it means is that you search poorly on the Net. Could be your rage, but a quick search of the LCMS.org website reveals this:
http://www.lcms.org/faqs
LCMS views
Contemporary Issues
Pg 13 Luthers Anti-semitism
Addressed in 1983, so perhaps the 30 yeas ago answer doesn't satisfy you but then, who's fault is that?
It is telling that a group wanting to bring back the LCMS of their grandfathers is looking at the splinter in the eye of the ELCA when they should be looking at log in their own eyes and how LCMS continues to shrink year after year.
Not in altar fellowship with LCMS, but affiliated with the apostate ELCA.
What did the BLC say in 1938 when Kristallnacht happened?
[expression of] anti-Judaism in Lutheran theology.
And what part of Lutheran 'theology' is anti-Judaism today, or any day for that matter?
Me too.
Let’s start over!
Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks.
*Declares everything water under the bridge*
>>One thing it means is that you search poorly on the Net.
Nope, I search just fine. The work in question is not referenced by name anywhere on LCMS.org
I’d like to give you a direct link, but the directions above take you to the pdf in question, not that hard.
The association of Mein Kampf with Lutheranism isn’t important.
Uhuh.
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